Sebastian Fischhold

How can I save the midi devices so they don't get lost every time i reload the project?

Same goes for the VST instruments. It seems I always have to select them again after loading a project.

How can I save the midi devices so they don't get lost every time i reload the project?
Same goes for the VST instruments. It seems I always have to select them again after loading a project.

How can I save the midi devices so they don't get lost every time i reload the project?
Same goes for the VST instruments. It seems I always

notein-noteout-midiin-midimout-loose-their-source-target-when-saving-reloading

as for plug-ins and other kind of documents, you will have to save the path to the file somewhere yourself.


midiinfo... can be loadbanged.

as for plug-ins and other kind of documents, you will have to save the path to the file somewhere yourself.


Thanks Roman. I have set it up like this... but even with loadbang I still have to select the right Midi Device every time. Am I doing something wrong?

And how can you store the path to the plugins? Could you give me an example? 

Sorry for asking so many questions! But I guess there must be an easy way to store the "working" version without having to select everything everytime all over again...

Thanks Roman. I have set it up like this... but even with loadbang I still have to select the right Midi Device every time. Am I doing something wrong?
And how can you store the path to the plugins? Could you give me an example? 
Sorry for asking so many questions! But I guess there must be an easy way to store the "working" version without having to select everything everytime all over again...

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the issue with things like midi is that it might not be thread safe.

so it can be wise to implement a small delay after the info from the OS comes - or track it somehow - before you recall your last setting.

the most obvious ways to save the state of an umenu would be [preset] - or writing an entry into a text file on disk. ("myproject-prefs.txt")

i dont have my stuff here but i can patch you one i think... sec


the issue with things like midi is that it might not be thread safe.

so it can be wise to implement a small delay after the info from the OS comes - or track it somehow - before you recall your last setting.

the most obvious ways to save the state of an umenu would be [preset] - or writing an entry into a text file on disk. ("myproject-prefs.txt")

i dont have my stuff here but i can patch you one i think... sec


you can find when midiinfo has loaded from its "set 0" message. 

and for VST i have here converted the plug-in name to integer numbers in order to store them in a preset.^^

both is not perfect and not tested , you have to find the various bugs yourself.

#P newex 124 645 75 9109513 prepend plug;

#P number 794 267 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P newex 255 655 387 9109513 pack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;

#P number 582 573 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 562 552 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 542 531 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 522 510 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 502 489 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 482 574 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 462 553 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 442 532 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 422 511 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 402 490 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 382 572 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 362 551 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 342 530 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 322 509 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P number 302 488 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;

#P newex 616 409 387 9109513 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;

#P message 568 241 116 9109513 plug delay;

#P newex 267 251 65 9109513 list store 1;


you can find when midiinfo has loaded from its "set 0" message. 

and for VST i have here converted the plug-in name to integer numbers in order to store them in a preset.^^

both is not perfect and not tested , you have to find the various bugs yourself.

#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 124 645 75 9109513 prepend plug;
#P newex 425 612 54 9109513 route 0;
#P newex 366 612 54 9109513 route 0;
#P newex 307 612 54 9109513 route 0;
#P newex 248 612 54 9109513 route 0;
#P newex 189 612 54 9109513 route 0;
#P newex 593 339 59 9109513 route plug;
#P newex 774 355 50 9109513 print;
#P number 794 267 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 762 314 50 9109513 itoa;
#P newex 255 655 387 9109513 pack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#P newex 487 408 56 9109513 loadbang;
#P number 582 573 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 562 552 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 542 531 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 522 510 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 502 489 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 482 574 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 462 553 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 442 532 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 422 511 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 402 490 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 382 572 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 362 551 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 342 530 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 322 509 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P number 302 488 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 616 409 387 9109513 unpack 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;
#P message 482 241 57 9109513 plug;
#P newex 616 381 50 9109513 atoi;
#P newex 502 302 50 9109513 t l l;
#P message 568 241 116 9109513 plug delay;
#N vst~ loaduniqueid 0;
#P newobj 127 521 91 9109513 vst~;
#P newex 27 429 71 9109513 print;
#P button 78 36 15 0;
#P newex 130 210 71 9109513 select set;
#P newex 83 175 44 9109513 t l l;
#P newex 181 242 38 9109513 t 1;
#P newex 267 251 65 9109513 list store 1;
#P newex 267 220 63 9109513 closebang;
#N vpreset 1;
#P preset 267 281 47 27;
#P user umenu 86 328 141 9109543 1 64 344 1;
#X add "Microsoft Synthesizer";
#X add "Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth";
#P newex 78 110 50 9109513 t 0;
#P newex 78 72 50 9109513 loadbang;
#P newex 739 134 71 9109513 midiinfo;
#P message 705 59 20 9109513 1;
#P comment 678 39 170 9109513 output devices;
#P comment 814 82 139 9109513 input devices;
#P message 770 79 25 9109513 -1;
#P message 837 102 20 9109513 0;
#P comment 751 60 128 9109513 controllers;
#P newex 65 145 71 9109513 midiinfo;
#P connect 0 0 18 0;
#P connect 9 0 0 0;
#P connect 17 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 9 0;
#P connect 0 0 15 0;
#P connect 11 0 10 0;
#P connect 15 1 10 0;
#P connect 41 0 51 0;
#P connect 51 0 19 0;
#P connect 21 0 19 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 14 0;
#P connect 25 0 46 0;
#P connect 26 0 47 0;
#P connect 46 1 41 0;
#P connect 12 0 13 0;
#P connect 14 0 11 0;
#P connect 13 0 11 0;
#P connect 47 1 41 1;
#P connect 48 1 41 2;
#P connect 49 1 41 3;
#P connect 40 0 25 0;
#P connect 11 0 25 0;
#P connect 24 0 25 0;
#P connect 50 1 41 4;
#P connect 27 0 48 0;
#P connect 40 0 26 0;
#P connect 11 0 26 0;
#P connect 24 1 26 0;
#P connect 40 0 27 0;
#P connect 11 0 27 0;
#P connect 24 2 27 0;
#P connect 40 0 28 0;
#P connect 11 0 28 0;
#P connect 24 3 28 0;
#P connect 28 0 49 0;
#P connect 40 0 29 0;
#P connect 11 0 29 0;
#P connect 24 4 29 0;
#P connect 40 0 30 0;
#P connect 11 0 30 0;
#P connect 24 5 30 0;
#P connect 40 0 31 0;
#P connect 11 0 31 0;
#P connect 24 6 31 0;
#P connect 29 0 50 0;
#P connect 40 0 32 0;
#P connect 11 0 32 0;
#P connect 24 7 32 0;
#P connect 40 0 33 0;
#P connect 11 0 33 0;
#P connect 24 8 33 0;
#P connect 40 0 34 0;
#P connect 11 0 34 0;
#P connect 24 9 34 0;
#P connect 23 0 21 0;
#P connect 20 0 21 0;
#P connect 40 0 35 0;
#P connect 11 0 35 0;
#P connect 24 10 35 0;
#P connect 40 0 36 0;
#P connect 11 0 36 0;
#P connect 24 11 36 0;
#P connect 40 0 37 0;
#P connect 11 0 37 0;
#P connect 24 12 37 0;
#P connect 40 0 38 0;
#P connect 11 0 38 0;
#P connect 24 13 38 0;
#P connect 40 0 39 0;
#P connect 11 0 39 0;
#P connect 24 14 39 0;
#P connect 21 1 45 0;
#P connect 45 0 22 0;
#P connect 22 0 24 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P connect 43 0 42 0;
#P connect 42 0 44 0;
#P connect 3 0 7 1;
#P connect 2 0 7 1;
#P window clipboard copycount 52;

You need to store the symbol of selected device

When You loadbang midiinfo, send that symbol to umenu.

If stored device is present, it will get selected.

One would need absolutepath maybe for standalone

You need to store the symbol of selected device
to disk.
Like text, coll or whatever.
When You loadbang midiinfo, send that symbol to umenu.
If stored device is present, it will get selected.
If not ...


One would need absolutepath maybe for standalone


If you want always the same MIDI device just don't use midiinfo and umenu but rather set the ports directly.

Loadbang message boxes like 
[port "My Midi Device"]
to midiin, notein, midiout, wherever.


Like that one does not know if device is present and ready to use.

Notein noteout Midiin midimout loose their source / target when saving / reloading