[ot] disable mouse in OS but still using as hid


    Oct 21 2007 | 12:55 pm

    • Oct 22 2007 | 4:40 pm
    • Oct 22 2007 | 5:21 pm
      heh, i have a solution for os9
      unfortunately, it is not possible with hi :(
    • Oct 28 2007 | 5:35 pm
      Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
      > don't know - but if you find out please keep us informed - i tried to do
      > so many times, on powerbooks (mac) - keeping the trackpad as "official"
      > mouse and an extra mouse as hi controller
      You would have to write a special driver for the mouse.
      Like that driver for the trackpad called FingaMIDI, which will do the
      opposite: turn off the trackpad as pointer device, turn it into a Midi
      controler and leave the mouse as such... (Unfortunately it doesn't work
      in Tiger anymore)
      You have to teach the OS to do that.
      On the other hand, the hi object will always track the mice, if you
      design your patch in a way that you can control it without mouse, it
      should be possible to track 6 mice with hi...
      (best is to go to fullscreen and disable all menus...)
      Stefan...
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    • Oct 28 2007 | 5:43 pm
      >> - keeping the trackpad as "official" mouse and an extra mouse as
      >>hi controller
      >
      >
      >Like that driver for the trackpad called FingaMIDI
      yeah, exactly - but since i find the track pad to be an expressive
      tool (much more than a mouse) i decided not to use fingamidi
      now if only the rumours about the new trackpad being multi-touch were
      true.......
      best
      kasper
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    • Oct 28 2007 | 7:06 pm
      On 28-oct.-07, at 18:43, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      >
      > yeah, exactly - but since i find the track pad to be an expressive
      > tool (much more than a mouse) i decided not to use fingamidi
      The only Kernel Panic my Titanium had in 4 years was because of
      FingaMIDI. Beware ;-)
      p
    • Oct 31 2007 | 5:52 pm
      Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
      > now if only the/ rumours/ about the new trackpad being multi-touch were
      > true.......
      The Trackpad on my old Powerbook is for sure multitouch, as it
      distingushes between one finger or two finger movements.
      It even passes something to hi: (watch the third value when using a
      second finger...)
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    • Oct 31 2007 | 10:35 pm
      >Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
      >>now if only the/ rumours/ about the new trackpad being multi-touch
      >>were true.......
      >
      >The Trackpad on my old Powerbook is for sure multitouch, as it
      >distingushes between one finger or two finger movements.
      >
      >It even passes something to hi: (watch the third value when using a
      >second finger...)
      >
      really cool - ok, the hi numbers are not the same on my pbook, and
      the 2nd finger thing only works since i installed iScroll2
      but this 3rd output could be something interesting!!!
      thank you
      kasper
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    • Nov 01 2007 | 6:02 pm
      >>
      >>>now if only the/ rumours/ about the new trackpad being multi-touch
      >>>were true.......
      >>
      >>The Trackpad on my old Powerbook is for sure multitouch, as it
      >>distingushes between one finger or two finger movements.
      >>
      >>It even passes something to hi: (watch the third value when using a
      >>second finger...)
      >>
      >
      >
      >really cool - ok, the hi numbers are not the same on my pbook, and
      >the 2nd finger thing only works since i installed iScroll2
      >
      >but this 3rd output could be something interesting!!!
      Sure but it's not what i would call multitouch - when i use the 3rd
      value, the first 2 ones (the actual track pad) can not be moved at
      the same time - or can it on your pbook, Stefan??
      best
      kasper
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    • Nov 02 2007 | 9:52 am
      Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
      > Sure but it's not what i would call multitouch - when i use the 3rd
      > value, the first 2 ones (the actual track pad) can not be moved at the
      > same time - or can it on your pbook, Stefan??
      I haven't looked at all into the meaning of these values or into a way
      to translate them. I just know that I can scroll if I put two fingers on
      my pad, and move the cursor if its one.
      Maybe its necessary to write a specific driver, if the values of hi
      don't deliver what you need. Its just an observation, that the hardware
      obviously is capable of multitouch...
      For my own taste the touchpad is way too small for me to consider it as
      important expresional input device, but I might change my mind if
      someone gets it going... ;-)
      Stefan
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    • Nov 02 2007 | 10:10 am
      >Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
      >>Sure but it's not what i would call multitouch - when i use the 3rd
      >>value, the first 2 ones (the actual track pad) can not be moved at
      >>the same time - or can it on your pbook, Stefan??
      >
      >I haven't looked at all into the meaning of these values or into a
      >way to translate them. I just know that I can scroll if I put two
      >fingers on my pad, and move the cursor if its one.
      >
      >Maybe its necessary to write a specific driver, if the values of hi
      >don't deliver what you need. Its just an observation, that the
      >hardware obviously is capable of multitouch...
      >
      >For my own taste the touchpad is way too small for me to consider it
      >as important expresional input device, but I might change my mind if
      >someone gets it going... ;-)
      the track pad is my favourite expression tool (and i bought and had
      custom-made a LOT of midi/usb devices, including sensors and web cams)
      but
      when talking about teh values hi receives from the trackpad, you are
      right i can receive 3 differents "streams" of them, but it's either 2
      at a time (which seem to be the "normal" track pad x-y) OR the 3rd
      one (the extra finger) but no way (at least on my computer) to
      receive all 3 at the same time, and worse to receive the 3rd one when
      I use the track pad the usual way..
      since the 2nd finger started to work on my Pbook, only with the help
      of iScroll app (it is not "standart" as it is on some newer macs) my
      question here is if on your machine you can vary the values of all 3
      streams at the same time
      many thanks
      best
      kasper
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    • Nov 03 2007 | 9:18 am
      Kasper T Toeplitz schrieb:
      > my question here is if on your machine you can vary the values of all
      > 3 streams at the same time
      It seems to be that the third value is only activ on the y-axis. And it
      seems the driver will not allow to change all three at the same time.
      Its either x + 3rd or y + 3rd.
      I once had a driver for the pad which would also give a z value, for
      pressure, but that's long ago, maybe OS 9 days...
      The pad seems much more powerful than the connection to the OS...
      Stefan
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    • Dec 31 2007 | 9:38 am
      Hi,
      Does somebody had news on that subject??
      driver?
      thanks
      freeka