[OT] osX on Pismo??


    Jan 27 2007 | 6:01 pm
    Hi
    I have an older pbook, a pismo (that's 333mghz) which runs OS9...
    I am wondering if i can install an OSX on it...
    __as it is I have no use for it (I have ketp an OS9 partition on a
    Titanium, so for the very few apps which I _could_ use on os 9, it's
    better)
    just wondering if it is possible...
    I would do it from an osX install DVD, with an external (USB) DVD player.....
    did anyone try something like this?? can it work?? (the idea would
    be to use it for some very basic max and some primitive msp... just
    in case I need another machine - for instance a display,
    communicating by maxhole with the main msp mac)
    many thanks
    kasper
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    • Jan 27 2007 | 6:21 pm
    • Jan 27 2007 | 6:24 pm
      Don't see why not...looks like Apple says it's ok (Pismo is the PowerBook G3 "FireWire" correct? They list having a firewire port as a requirement). They even sell a CD version of OSX to avoid the external USB DVD part of the equation (assuming you've got the CD drive):
      Perhaps someone else has actually tried it though and knows the pitfalls for sure....
      Quote: Kasper T Toeplitz wrote on Sat, 27 January 2007 10:01
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      > Hi
      >
      > I have an older pbook, a pismo (that's 333mghz) which runs OS9...
      >
      > I am wondering if i can install an OSX on it...
      >
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    • Jan 27 2007 | 6:31 pm
      >Don't see why not...looks like Apple says it's ok (Pismo is the
      >PowerBook G3 "FireWire" correct? They list having a firewire port
      >as a requirement). They even sell a CD version of OSX to avoid the
      >external USB DVD part of the equation (assuming you've got the CD
      >drive):
      >
      >http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/requirements.html
      >
      AHHHHHHHHH
      no firewire on mine.........
      tooo bad!!
      thanks
      kasper
    • Jan 27 2007 | 6:36 pm
      On 27-janv.-07, at 19:01, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      > Hi
      >
      > I have an older pbook, a pismo (that's 333mghz) which runs OS9...
      Salut Kasper,
      if it's only for basic Max/MSP stuff, why don't you just stay in OS9?
      It's so funny to have to work on older Max versions, and still have to
      use OMS, and choose which extensions the system will load ;-)
      I'm afraid your pismo is a bit too small for OSX. I know it was
      possible to install the first OSX systems on a pismo, but I don't up to
      which version.
      > for instance a display, communicating by maxhole with the main msp mac)
      There are udp objects for older versions of Max. No need for Java!
      p
    • Jan 27 2007 | 6:59 pm
      On 27 Jan 2007, at 18:01, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      > I have an older pbook, a pismo (that's 333mghz) which runs OS9...
      If it's a Pismo ("PowerBook G3 Firewire") then it's either 400 or
      500MHz. I have one, and it's running 10.4.8 without any problems,
      although it's not what one could call a high-performance machine
      these days.
      -- N.
    • Jan 27 2007 | 7:16 pm
      >On 27 Jan 2007, at 18:01, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      >
      >>I have an older pbook, a pismo (that's 333mghz) which runs OS9...
      >
      >If it's a Pismo ("PowerBook G3 Firewire") then it's either 400 or
      >500MHz. I have one, and it's running 10.4.8 without any problems,
      >although it's not what one could call a high-performance machine
      >these days.
      >
      so maybe it"s not pismo - 333, and no fireWire (looks like a pismo, for sure)
      thanks
      kasper
    • Jan 27 2007 | 9:17 pm
      On 27 Jan 2007, at 19:16, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      > so maybe it"s not pismo - 333, and no fireWire (looks like a pismo,
      > for sure)
      Lombard, then.
      SCSI and an optional Zip drive - how cool is that?
      -- N.
    • Jan 28 2007 | 12:29 pm
      Lombard. That's what I used for OS X for several years. It's very
      slow but it works.
      The story that now can be told: I did the entire testing of the first
      Carbon Litter Power for Max/MSP 4.2 on that machine.
      So it does work. At least to Mac OS X 1.3.
      On 27-Jan-2007, at 20:16, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      >> On 27 Jan 2007, at 18:01, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      >>
      >>> I have an older pbook, a pismo (that's 333mghz) which runs OS9...
      >>
      >> If it's a Pismo ("PowerBook G3 Firewire") then it's either 400 or
      >> 500MHz. I have one, and it's running 10.4.8 without any problems,
      >> although it's not what one could call a high-performance machine
      >> these days.
      >>
      >
      > so maybe it"s not pismo - 333, and no fireWire (looks like a pismo,
      > for sure)
      >
      > thanks
      >
      > kasper
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    • Jan 28 2007 | 12:46 pm
      >Lombard. That's what I used for OS X for several years. It's very
      >slow but it works.
      >
      very slow means slower than with os9???
      in your opinion, should I keep OS 9 or upgrade to X ??
      thanks
      kasper
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    • Jan 28 2007 | 1:04 pm
      28/01/07, kl. 13:45 +0100 , skrev Kasper T Toeplitz:
      >
      >very slow means slower than with os9???
      Yes. OS 9 is really lightweigt . My Pismo 400MHz feels fast on OS 9, on
      OS X its crawling.
      >
      >in your opinion, should I keep OS 9 or upgrade to X ??
      Don't upgrade if you can do what you wan't in OS 9.
      /J
    • Jan 28 2007 | 1:21 pm
      >
      >Don't upgrade if you can do what you wan't in OS 9.
      >
      actually i am trying to do someting with this machien (which i don't
      use since a long time......)
      thanks
      kasper
    • Jan 28 2007 | 3:30 pm
      On 28-Jan-2007, at 13:45, Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      > very slow means slower than with os9???
      Yes
      >
      > in your opinion, should I keep OS 9 or upgrade to X ??
      I would stick with OS 9 on this machine.
      At the time I got the Lombard as the least expensive machine that
      could possibly run OS X so I could test my externals. The fact that
      this configuration was a stress test was, for me, an added benefit.
      For you it would not be a benefit.
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    • Jan 29 2007 | 7:47 am
      Kasper, you already got 279 computers in your basement, why did you need
      this poor one too ? .-)
      f.e
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      Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      >>
      >> Don't upgrade if you can do what you wan't in OS 9.
      >>
      >
      >
      > actually i am trying to do someting with this machien (which i don't
      > use since a long time......)
      >
      > thanks
      >
      > kasper
      >
    • Jan 29 2007 | 8:26 am
      On 29 janv. 07, at 08:47, f.e wrote:
      > Kasper, you already got 279 computers in your basement, why did you
      > need this poor one too ? .-)
      Maybe because a Lombard is black.
      p
    • Jan 29 2007 | 8:36 am
      :-)) Good point !
      f.e
      f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
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      Patrick Delges wrote:
      >
      > On 29 janv. 07, at 08:47, f.e wrote:
      >
      >> Kasper, you already got 279 computers in your basement, why did you
      >> need this poor one too ? .-)
      >
      > Maybe because a Lombard is black.
      >
      > p
      >
      >
    • Jan 29 2007 | 12:51 pm
      Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      > very slow means slower than with os9???
      When I switched from OS 9 to OS X, OS X was significantly slower, but OS
      X 10.4 is also faster than older versions.
      > in your opinion, should I keep OS 9 or upgrade to X ??
      Depends what you want to do with it, and whats more important: bells and
      whistles of Max 4.6 or can you live with 4.2...
      If you got spare time to fiddle around you could also install Linux and
      run Pd...
      Or you just might sell it on ebay and buy Ice or JMSL from the money.
      Old Powerbooks sell not bad in my experience (actually very well, even
      when they are broken...)
      Stefan
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    • Jan 29 2007 | 1:04 pm
      >
      >If you got spare time to fiddle around you could also install Linux
      >and run Pd...
      this i s a little too much right now for me - i am struggling with
      OpenMusic already, still talking about learning javascript some day,
      have to get deeper into Reaktor and DP....
      >
      >Or you just might sell it on ebay and buy Ice or JMSL from the
      >money. Old Powerbooks sell not bad in my experience (actually very
      >well, even when they are broken...)
      To sell the first computer which could be used as a real instrument??
      are you crazy?? I always regreated selling my very first bass!!
      best
      kasper
    • Jan 29 2007 | 1:57 pm
      On 29-Jan-2007, at 13:51, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
      > Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      >> very slow means slower than with os9???
      >
      > When I switched from OS 9 to OS X, OS X was significantly slower,
      > but OS X 10.4 is also faster than older versions.
      But it will be quite difficult to get 10.4 to install on a mahcine
      that has neither Firewire nor a built-in DVD drive. The Lombard is
      not officially supported. There may be some hack that allows you to
      install 10.4 on this hardware, but I don't know if it's worth the
      effort.
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    • Jan 30 2007 | 5:04 am
      kasper,
      it appearantly can work with panther or tiger:
      http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=25997
      there was this program called xpostfacto, which helps installing os x on
      if its worth doing? thats a different question, though...
      hth
      hans
      www.hans-w-koch.net
      Zitat von Peter Castine :
      > On 29-Jan-2007, at 13:51, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
      >
      > > Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      > >> very slow means slower than with os9???
      > >
      > > When I switched from OS 9 to OS X, OS X was significantly slower,
      > > but OS X 10.4 is also faster than older versions.
      >
      > But it will be quite difficult to get 10.4 to install on a mahcine
      > that has neither Firewire nor a built-in DVD drive. The Lombard is
      > not officially supported. There may be some hack that allows you to
      > install 10.4 on this hardware, but I don't know if it's worth the
      > effort.
      >
      >
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    • Jan 30 2007 | 12:00 pm
      Kasper T Toeplitz wrote:
      > this i s a little too much right now...
      Oh I forgot the smileys... ;-)))) I know you are a busy man...
      Stefan
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