zion

Hi, can I create / built an executable file to Mac from my PC? Where do I find that option?

Hi, can I create / built an executable file to Mac from my PC? Where do I find that option?
Thanks!

built-an-exe-file-to-mac

precise what is executable for you .
Max Standalone app ?


well yess, standalone app, would you watch the attached picture? is it how I suppose to do it? I can't see any

short answer is - it is not possible to export application for oposite OS than one
Max is running on.

There are some posibilities, but it woud be difficult, and need a lot of knowledge and few tools.

In addition, Apple is having some restrictions, so that without Apple developer ID license
which costs money, one can't run app on "normal" Mac systems.
Normal means not hacked to use software from non Apple auhorised developers.
--------
Your options beside bying a Mac is to run MacOS
in  Virtual Box or to have someone create standalone object for you,
based on your patch.
You can export platform-free collective (mxf file) that can be copied into
Mac Application bundle, by excluding externals when building it.
That way you could have Mac Standalone app, with all stuff it needs, and compile 
the mxf file on PC.

I hope this infos give you a bit of idea.


well thanks a lot for your detailed answer, it is not a big thing that I need I just thought that I miss something (-:

Built an exe file to Mac

Cycling '74

sample-scrambler.png

This patch does a kind of gritty Buffershuffler-esque reordering of the last bar of audio. I've hard coded it with crusty old drumLoop.aif to reduce clutter in the patch, but you'll be able to pretty easily open it out to other files or live input. You'll need both Overdrive and SIAI on so that the phasor~ @lock is steady. HAPPY PATCHING!!!!!!! 

Next steps to take in its evolution could be:

3300-GenPAD03.maxpat.zip

Originally part of the Gen Patch-a-day Series:

This patch does a kind of gritty Buffershuffler-esque reordering of the  last bar of audio. I've hard coded it with crusty old drumLoop.aif to  reduce clutter in the patch, but you'll be able to pretty easily open it  out to other files or live input. You'll need both Overdrive and SIAI on  so that the phasor~ @lock is steady. HAPPY PATCHING!!!!!!! 
-- Andrew 

 Next steps to take in its evolution could be: 

adding variation to the amount of history being collected

changing the direction of playback of a step

copying out parts of audio history into other buffers so that you build up a more diverse history of audio

Facebook post - 2.png

This patch does a kind of gritty Buffershuffler-esque reordering of the last bar of audio.

sample-scrambler-by-andrew-pask

Hey, this is pretty sick! I should hope this makes its way to the Examples section at some point, it's quite clean and readable code! :) Dig it.

I missed it the first time around so, thx for sharing it!
I was thinking this was a funny coincidence, or that maybe you'd be inspired by a_sample_shuffler example from The QAC Toolkit package ;)

Best,
OCH

I am a Digital Marketing Head. I am also SEO consultant at Sheknowsfinance.


Sample Scrambler by Andrew Pask

Daniele Fabris [ LEDEN ]

 is Max4Live device developed to creatively work with the Outer Fields sound libraries.

It’s an audio effect implementing a real-time granular synthesis algorithm using a multi-voices audio scanner that creates a constant stream of destructured crossfading sections of the input sound source.

Pitch, size, windowing and density of each grain can be modulated to create a deep variety of sound processing with an additional blurring effect provided on-chain to generate vast and dense soundscapes.

Grotta is Max4Live device developed to creatively work with the Outer Fields sound libraries.
It’s an audio effect implementing a real-time granular synthesis algorithm using a multi-voices audio scanner that creates a constant stream of destructured crossfading sections of the input sound source.
Pitch, size, windowing and density of each grain can be modulated to create a deep variety of sound processing with an additional blurring effect provided on-chain to generate vast and dense soundscapes.

Grotta is Max4Live device developed to creatively work with the Outer Fields sound libraries.
It’s an audio effect implementing a real-time 

grotta-granular-texturizer

This is fantastic! You just hit my drone button, I had to purchase it. 

Looks intresting. Anyway it looks like that the site http://www.outerfields.net/libraries/grotta/ does not work. Just to let you know. 

thanks @andrej ! the website has been restored.

GROTTA Granular Texturizer 

Komp!

I need help creating a 5 second delay with independent feedback control in GEN so that the delay works both with and without feedback.

I need help creating a 5 second delay with independent feedback control in GEN so that the delay works both with and without feedback.
Thanks for considering my request
R.

I need help creating a 5 second delay with independent feedback control in GEN so that the delay works both with and without feedback.
Thank

delay-with-independent-feedback-control-in-gen

I posted two examples here
https://cycling74.com/forums/problem-in-gen~-with-infinite-recursion-while-using-delay-and-history

Delay with independent feedback control in Gen

Falk

I am preparing an 2ch video 14 ch audio, midi, udp network installation based on Max which runs for many month on a windows 10 server without internet connection. I still habe some issues which I didn't solve yet. I have been also working with Dataton Watchout before and Dataton kindly provides a pdf which tweaks windows for the use of their Display Computers see https://cdn.dataton.com/Files-PDF-etc/content_offers/WATCHOUT-Windows_10_Enterprise_Tweaking_Guide.pdf?mtime=20180615134405 These Computers are optimized for Video Display (CPU,GPU) local Network communication (to transfer Media and for use of NDI, but no www!) 

this guide is based on win enterprise and it is helpful for certain settings. I am looking for a recent document where all tricks are listed, optimized for Max based on win 10 pro, for a server which is only there for this application.

- really disable all notifications via registry 

-unsinstall unnecessary stuff like OneDrive, xbox...

-disable unnecessary network communication

If there is no such guide around maybe we can compile or extend one via this community, I am happy to share my knowledge I got so far.

I am preparing an 2ch video 14 ch audio, midi,  udp network  installation based on Max which runs for many month on a windows 10 server without internet connection.  I still habe some issues  which I didn't solve yet.  I have been also working with Dataton Watchout before and Dataton kindly provides a pdf which tweaks windows for the use of their Display Computers see https://cdn.dataton.com/Files-PDF-etc/content_offers/WATCHOUT-Windows_10_Enterprise_Tweaking_Guide.pdf?mtime=20180615134405 These Computers are optimized for Video Display (CPU,GPU) local Network communication (to transfer Media and for use of NDI, but no www!) 
this guide is based on win enterprise and it is helpful for certain settings. I am looking for a recent document where all tricks are listed, optimized for Max based on win 10 pro, for a server which is only there for this application.
Information on:
- really disable all notifications via registry 
-install win without a MS account
-unsinstall unnecessary stuff like OneDrive, xbox...
-no welcome screen
-speed optimization
-start and shutdown automatically
-disable unnecessary network communication
...
If there is no such guide around maybe we can compile or extend one via this community, I am happy to share my knowledge I got so far.
cheers
Falk



Hi List, 
I am preparing an 2ch video 14 ch audio, midi,  udp network  installation based on Max which runs for many month on a windows 10 s

windows-10-system-tweaking-for-max-installation

I saved this post from the fb group that has some great advice from Paul Fennell - https://www.facebook.com/groups/961274147281218/permalink/6462078480534063 

He suggests checking out this link - https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/force-app-to-use-dedicated-gpu-windows 

Hey Rob, 
Thanks for the links. I didn't know about the fb group, very helpful. I will compile a document and share it when done. btw I found there are many sources about win tweaking for gamers, that's not the same but similar, I will dig thru that as well. The Dataton list is the best source for me so far
cheers
falk

windows 10 system tweaking for Max installation

Roger

Hi, I am trying to get three cameras working in a patch, 2 work fine allowing a front and side videos capture. I want to add another from above but Max seems to only find 2 cameras. Any suggestions much appreciated.

Hi, I am trying to get three cameras working in a patch, 2 work fine allowing a front and side videos capture. I want to add another from ab

use-three-cameras

use three cameras 

In the spirit of the holiday, allow me to share with you the

disis.aka.wiiremote v1.00 release that is now available for download from

The DISIS variation of the aka.wiiremote external provides Wii Fit interface

with supporting documentation, and some code enhancements.

Special thanks go obviously to Masayuki Akamatsu for his aka.wiiremote

external, Sabrina Killian for her research on the Wii Fit protocol, and

NB: since the object is built upon the aka.wiiremote architecture, it uses

OSX Bluetooth protocol and is unfortunately OS-specific. However, the source

is included, so porting should be relatively easy. Please note however, in

the spirit of the scotch tape 'n' bondo approach to coding we introduced one

relatively ugly hack that deals with reading Wii Fit calibration data due to

project timing constraints, so please consider yourselves warned if you do

decide to dig into the code. That being said, the hack should not be

volatile nor should it have any bearing on the runtime performance of the

object. Also, PD version has not been built nor tested yet, so this may or

Please report any bugs/problems. Also, if you do happen to have a classic

Wii controller, please check that it also works ok as some of its code was

altered to accommodate support for the Wii Fit.

Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio

In the spirit of the holiday, allow me to share with you the
disis.aka.wiiremote v1.00 release that is now available for download from
the DISIS website (http://disis.music.vt.edu, for the impatient, direct link
to the download folder is http://ico.music.vt.edu/Max/).

The DISIS variation of the aka.wiiremote external provides Wii Fit interface
with supporting documentation, and some code enhancements.

Special thanks go obviously to Masayuki Akamatsu for his aka.wiiremote
external, Sabrina Killian for her research on the Wii Fit protocol, and
Ji-Sun Kim for her code contributions.

NB: since the object is built upon the aka.wiiremote architecture, it uses
OSX Bluetooth protocol and is unfortunately OS-specific. However, the source
is included, so porting should be relatively easy. Please note however, in
the spirit of the scotch tape 'n' bondo approach to coding we introduced one
relatively ugly hack that deals with reading Wii Fit calibration data due to
project timing constraints, so please consider yourselves warned if you do
decide to dig into the code. That being said, the hack should not be
volatile nor should it have any bearing on the runtime performance of the
object. Also, PD version has not been built nor tested yet, so this may or
may not compile for Pd/OSX.

Please report any bugs/problems. Also, if you do happen to have a classic
Wii controller, please check that it also works ok as some of its code was
altered to accommodate support for the Wii Fit.

Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Composition, Music Technology
Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD
CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy)
Virginia Tech
Dept. of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico@vt.edu
http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/

ann-disis-aka-wiiremote-object-now-available-offering-wii-fit-board-functionality-mac-only

This seems like exactly what I want, but the links aren't taking me anywhere. Is there an updated version of this anywhere?
Thanks

not to my knowledge.
you don't mention max version or OS you use.

otherwise one could make some suggestions or workarrounds.

I think, under MacOS a typical solution for wiimote (and many other controllers) is application called OSCulator, which is able to transmit data from the controller via MIDI or OSC. I'm not sure about Monterey, but OSCulator works fine with Big Sur.

There is a trial version of the application available: https://osculator.net 

ANN: disis.aka.wiiremote object now available offering Wii Fit board functionality (Mac only)

Guilherme Martins

I'm trying to convert a Serial message that comes from an Arduino, into a MIDI noteout message.

Right now I have a message like this "42 127 1" and I need it to be like this 42, 127, 1

Been trying to mess with sprintf but no luck at all, if anyone can help me out solving this it will be much appreciated.

I'm trying to convert a Serial message that comes from an Arduino, into a MIDI noteout message.
Right now I have a message like this "42 127 1" and I need it to be like this 42, 127, 1
Been trying to mess with sprintf but no luck at all, if anyone can help me out solving this it will be much appreciated.

I'm trying to convert a Serial message that comes from an Arduino, into a MIDI noteout message.
Right now I have a message like this "42 127

help-formating-a-serial-message-into-a-midi-noteout-message

fromsymbol is needed, but comma separation  or itering not.
But -  42 0 1 is not a valid midi message.
Whatever you send from arduino, must be converted into something that
uses midi specification, note, CC etc.
read somewhere about raw midi data formatting.
sending 42 0 1 will break midi communication, as midi objects would try to group
midi flow into something usefull, and so scramble valid midi messages.


@Source Audio you're absolutely right, I was looking into the midiout object because it's the object that is on the M4L "MAX Midi Effect" template.
Now after looking into the noteout object I saw that the Midi message is much simplier.
Thanks for clarifiyng that out.

you are welcome.
You can ignore the 3rd list item as live is not clever enough to use midi channels
in devices.
I think your list is note - velocity - midi channel

If you want to keep midiout just use 144 $1 $2.
In case you need to filter messages by midi channel, which Live can't do for you
because messages come from serial object, something like this could do


That's lovelly, thanks again!
I'm leaving the code here, and also the Arduino code I'm using. 
I know I'm re-inventing a squared/hammered wheel, but this might be usefull to someone, as it was for me.

You found your way through this jungle of
Max - Arduino unknown waters, congrats.
But ... there is a lot of potential to make it better.

you use midi library, but don't use midi really, not over USB,
not as midi over 5pol DIN (would need midi baud rate anyway),
no midi at all.

I understand that you push a single button to create random note,
and in Max use makenote object with fixed velocity, and set
note length from analog read.
Actually only 2 values, note number and  note length.
No need for note Off, no need for velocity, no need for midi library at all.
---
if you make note randomising in Max, with huge advantage to be able to change scales,
ranges, even step through ostinatos on the fly etc
even only 1 value - note length would do.
----------
int but; int EXbut;
void setup() {Serial.begin(9600); pinMode(12, INPUT_PULLUP);}
void loop() {int but = digitalRead(12);
if (but == 1) {EXbut = 1;}
if (but != EXbut and but == 0)
{Serial.println(analogRead(A0));}
EXbut = but; delay(10);}
-------
That would be all it needs (beside that unneeded LED toggle stuff)

complex debouncing is needed only if button you use is that bad.
But for that you can use simpler code, or bounce library.
-----
Then in Max


You could also randomise velocity a bit ...
But scaling length down to zero ???
stop message clears all hanging midi notes
no need for flush or that counter 0 - 127,
which anyway could also be done with uzi 128 0
P.S.
another way to light a LED when button is pressed


Thanks for adding so much value to this post!

Help formating a Serial message into a MIDI noteout message

madbutter

I have a slider and a number box in my interace connected to each other so that the user can change the value in either one and it is correctly reflected in the other. I use a direct connection between the slider and the number and a prepend set message the other way so that there is no infinite loop, as is standard practice. But if I use setminmax (or size and min messages) and set the min to anything other than 0., the prepend set message reports the wrong value in the slider. The range is correct but the min offset is not repected. See simple patch:

I have a slider and a number box in my interace connected to each other so that the user can change the value in either one and it is correctly reflected in the other. I use a direct connection between the slider and the number and a prepend set message the other way so that there is no infinite loop, as is standard practice.  But if I use setminmax (or size and min messages) and set the min to anything other than 0., the prepend set message reports the wrong value in the slider. The range is correct but the min offset is not repected. See simple patch:


I have a slider and a number box in my interace connected to each other so that the user can change the value in either one and it is correc

setminmax-doesn't-work-on-slider-w-minimum-set-to-anything-other-than-0-when-using-set-message


just had a quick look, it seem to be the mouse itself what causes this, so it is probably releated to one of these modern gui externals functions such as midilearn, automapping blah blah.

hm, a deferlow in the loop makes it worse, not better.

to sum it up: 
you want to be able to change mix/max or min/range to arbitrary values, but it only works when you start the object with default values such as min -9999999 and range 9999999, otherwise changes to a negative range causes trouble, right?



Im actually talking about something different. Attached is a simpler case. Using a slider, everything works when you change range if min is 0. As in the first example. But if you change the min to anything other than 0., the value input is not the value output because the minimum offset is not applied. See the second two examples



this example makes clear that [slider] does exactly what it should.

in [slider]´s logic its value is the 0 - n which you can also successfully set it to from the numberbox. its output may then contain an offset (such as -2 or 2), but this is not its value range.

at the same time i must admit that the use of the words mininum and maximum in parts of the reference and helpfile -  and the "setminmax" command - are highly irritating, because that simply does not describe what it actually does. (at least when compared to all other objects.)
only the names used in the inspector (minimum and range) will tell you the truth.

if you need minimum values other than 0 often, ignore slider and use [multislider].

the only noticeable difference is that multislider requires "set 1 4." with the set message, otherwise it is the better slider.

i´ve never in my life used [slider] because of that. its historic context is MIDI...


setminmax doesn't work on slider w minimum set to anything other than 0. when using set message

Diemo Schwarz

Hi, I'm starting to look into (message domain) gen to handle 14bit 3D MPE MIDI data (from Sensel Morph).

I read that variables are type-less, but I suppose that means everything is in float (or double?)?

Is there a way to use ints, for more efficiency and the "<<" bit-shift operator?

[For the curious, it would replace this beautiful FTM message box expression, ideally with acces to an external [table] object 

image.png

Hi, I'm starting to look into (message domain) gen to handle 14bit 3D MPE MIDI data (from Sensel Morph).
I read that variables are type-less, but I suppose that means everything is in float (or double?)?
Is there a way to use ints, for more efficiency and the "<<" bit-shift operator?
Cheers!


[For the curious, it would replace this beautiful FTM message box expression, ideally with acces to an external [table] object m storing the current ctrl values:]

Hi, I'm starting to look into (message domain) gen to handle 14bit 3D MPE MIDI data (from Sensel Morph).
I read that variables are type-less

gen-with-integers-for-mpe-midi-data-handling

No, gen doesn't support integer-formatted numbers or bit shifts, and it's not likely to in the near future. But with modern desktop processors, the performance loss from doing everything in floating point is not as severe as it used to be. Most current top-end desktop processors can complete a floating-point add instruction in two clock cycles and a multiply in four, and they are heavily pipelined, so as long as you don't stall the pipeline alot, you won't actually see much performance difference on Intel or AMD.  In the Husserl tutorial series on this forum, tutorials 1 and 3 go way into pipeline optimization methods. 

https://cycling74.com/forums/gen~-codebox-tutorial-oscillators-part-one 

I don't know the specifics for the current M1 on floating point but I wouldn't expect much from it, as the company is really motivated to make profit on glitz these days. Most of Apple's customer don't really know the difference between floating point and integer calculation, so it's not likely to be that impressive.   


like ernest says it is really no problem to handle midi as floats (any powermac G3 is fast enough to calculate the all the midi data you can at a maximum need to drive a setup of 16 10-port midi interfaces even you use javascript for it :P ), but of course that means that you have to translate the bitshift operators you might be used to, to something else. 
(i am not even sure why recently people start doing such simple things using gen and gen~)


The reason I do midi on gen is that js runs on the low-priority thread, so the latency is indeterminate, with maintenance of all screen drawing operations consuming almost an entire core. So I only use js for bank operations and multi changes. 


sure, i wouldnt use js either. but midi is kind of the core discipline of max, isnt it. :)

Thanks for your insights. Sure, handling 6 MIDI controllers costs next to nothing, compared to audio. It's just the engineer in me cringing at that non-optimality =-)  especially since gen is compiled on-the-fly anyway, so it would be just a matter of replacing "double" by "int" in the generated intermediate C code.
(It is double for gen, isn't it? which makes it a bit more costly, or did recent processors catch up with that, too?)


in danger if of beeing inaccurate: max uses 64 bit numbers since 6.x as soon as you also enable 64 bit audio, and is 64 bit only since 7.x

and there never was a different size of its int and float numbers.

besides that, objects like expr or log were 64 bit internally since ever.

(though i am not sure what happens when you use logical-or inside expr. bitshift... does not even exist there)

optimisation? ... while accessing an external table?


that danger is real... 
While audio is 64bit, data in lists, atoms, flonum, and buffer~ is still 32bit single precision float in Max.

i am not sure what happens when you use logical-or inside expr

You mean the expr external? Well, there, unlike in gen, you do have a way to explicitly declare arguments as integer ($i1), and the bit-shift and logical operators seem to cast their args to int.

optimisation? ... while accessing an external table?

You're right, that would be less efficient since it would require locking. Actually, an internal integer array only managed by gen would be best, here.

Actually gen/gen~ *will* use integers in code generation if it knows it is safe to. E.g., if you route inputs through an [int] operator, the output will be cast to int in the generated code. If you multiply two of these, the result will be `int`, etc., until it meets something that isn't `int` (or an operator that can't be integer, e.g. [sin]), and in that case it will cast the input as `double` and the output will be `double`.  The best way to see this is to look at the code exported to see where/when it can happen.

(Note: It will also use `bool` types where it can). 

But even if gen wasn't able to infer integer for a specific operation, note that 64-bit floating point numbers can accurately represent integers up to +/-(2^53)-1 (so long as you maintain only whole number operations on them). That's a significant range.

The performance cost differences here are negligible. Moreover, the underlying compiler that turns this into machine code is pretty smart at optimizing numerics and types; I wouldn't worry about this too much. Especially given how small the task is here. 

I will say though, I do think it might be nice to introduce bitwise operations to gen; there's just a lot of caveats and gotchas to think through first. 

Thank you very much for all your comments and remarks. Now I see many new possibilities related to my own ”gen experience” ;-)

gen with integers (for MPE MIDI data handling)?

Ben Bracken

We are excited to announce the availability of our 

 as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with 

. The Eventide H9000 is a rack-sized multi-effects unit with powerful DSP processing capabilities and numerous high quality built-in effects. We’re excited to enable RNBO export for this and open the door to unique custom studio effects and instruments without the strict limitations of other hardware platforms.

RNBO support is similar to the existing Gen support, but more streamlined, and uses the built-in 

, rather than a watcher patcher, to manage the export process. Eventually, all of these changes will be rolled into the standard release versions of RNBO and this package.

Get the preview version of the RNBO package (v1.2.7-eventide.0):

Get the preview version of the "Eventide H9000" package (v1.0.4-beta.3):

We’d love to hear any experiences and feedback from RNBO users with access to an H9000. To join the discussion, use the 

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to bring...

eventide-h9000-package-for-rnbo-public-beta

Eventide H9000 Package for RNBO - Public Beta

This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new 

The full list of improvements are below, or on the Max 8.6.2 release page:

: Updated LOM documentation to the state on 12.0.x.

We are happy to announce the release of Max 8.6.2.

This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new...

Cycling '74 Forums

We are excited to announce the availability of our Eventide package for RNBO as a public beta. We’ve worked closely with Eventide to...

We are happy to announce the release of Max 8.6.2. This update focuses on Max for Live stability, fixing regression bugs, and a few new...

well thanks a lot for your detailed answer, it is not a big thing that I need I just thought that I miss something (-:

I missed it the first time around so, thx for sharing it! I was thinking this was a funny coincidence, or that maybe you'd be inspired by...

thanks @andrej ! the website has been restored.

It helps! Thank you very much!

Hey Rob, Thanks for the links. I didn't know about the fb group, very helpful. I will compile a document and share it when done. btw I...

Hi, I am trying to get three cameras working in a patch, 2 work fine allowing a front and side videos capture. I want to add another from ab

I think, under MacOS a typical solution for wiimote (and many other controllers) is application called OSCulator, which is able to transmit...

Thanks for adding so much value to this post!

this example makes clear that [slider] does exactly what it should. in [slider]´s logic its value is the 0 - n which you can also...

@Graham Thank you very much for all your comments and remarks. Now I see many new possibilities related to my own ”gen experience” ;-)