Patchers as Text with Mail.app


    Jun 09 2006 | 4:43 am
    Dear Apple Mail Users,
    Does anyone have an efficient way of Pasting patchers? Read on...
    The problem: when you Copy a patcher to the Clipboard, Max creates
    both image and text versions of the current selection. This is OK,
    but when Pasting inside Apple Mail, Mail uses the image version.
    In Mail 1.x the workaround was to Paste as Quotation (Shift-Cmd-V),
    which forced use of the text version in the Clipboard, then to select
    the patcher text and Decrease Quote Level: Opt-Cmd-' (apostrophe).
    This doesn't work in Mail 2.x, because even Paste as Quotation
    inserts the image.
    I've been doing this: In Max Copy, New Text, Paste, Copy, Close
    (Don't Save); then over to Mail and Paste. There's got to be a better
    way.
    -- P.
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    • Jun 09 2006 | 5:32 am
      oh wow. Ive been doing new, make patch example, save, open patch as
      text, copy, dont save, paste into mail, remove rich text formatting,
      manually remove obnoxious parts signature file to be polite, send.
      an applescript workflow could happen probably, but I so rarely post
      examples to the list....
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    • Jun 09 2006 | 6:50 am
      I use this applescript in combination with iKey (although QuickSilver
      triggers might work, too):
      set foo to the clipboard
      set the clipboard to (foo as text)
      and then Paste
      jb
    • Jun 09 2006 | 7:07 am
      I copy the patch, make a new message box, past into it, copy at paste
      that into the mail. This has become such a habit that I have forgotten
      to check if it is still required now that I have moved to Thunderbird.
      Testing it, it isn't. Yet another good reason to get rid of Mail, but
      that's another long story...
      :-)
      Best,
      Trond
    • Jun 09 2006 | 7:45 am
      On 9 juin 06, at 09:07, Trond Lossius wrote:
      >>> I've been doing this: In Max Copy, New Text, Paste, Copy, Close
      >>> (Don't Save); then over to Mail and Paste. There's got to be a
      >>> better way.
      Hi Peter,
      I've the same technique, wich is pretty fast (if you have installed
      my shortcuts modifications):
      command + C (copy the patch)
      alt + command + N (make a new text file)
      command + V (paste the patch as text)
      command + A (select all)
      command + C (copy the text)
      command + W (close the window)
      command + D (don't save)
      switch to Mail...
      command + V (paste)
      Of course with a little bit of practice it's pretty fast but Jeremy's
      solution seems to be faster. I'll try that.
      Best,
      ej
    • Jun 09 2006 | 8:22 am
      And the prize for best solution before 10:00am EST (the Quizmaster's--
      that's me--decision is final) goes to...
      On 9-Jun-2006, at 8:50, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
      > I use this applescript in combination with iKey (although
      > QuickSilver triggers might work, too):
      >
      > set foo to the clipboard
      > set the clipboard to (foo as text)
      >
      > and then Paste
      Next beer's on me. The advantage in Jeremy winning is that there's a
      chance we'll actually see each other before the beer's been forgotten.
      Tech note: Mail seems to have a facility for attaching keystrokes to
      items in the Script menu (if you have it turned on), so another
      alternative to iKey/QuickSilver. Except it's not working for me on
      Fridays before 10:30am :-/
      -- Peter
    • Jun 09 2006 | 9:00 am
      I think this got turned off in Tiger, but I could be wrong.
      jb
    • Jun 09 2006 | 9:42 am
      i can't believe you post this after trond's solution... which also
      solves all the other problems with apple mail. ;)
    • Jun 09 2006 | 4:20 pm
      On 9-Jun-2006, at 11:42, dlurk wrote:
      > i can't believe you post this after trond's solution...
      The problem with Trond's approach is that I simply don't have the
      energy to change mail client more often than once a year, preferably
      more like once every five-ten years.
      I looked at Thunderbird. I was not sufficiently impressed to make an
      exception.
      And, as da mahn sez, the Quizmaster's decision is final.
      -- P
      [Please cf the .sig from my previous post on this thread if you need it]
    • Jun 09 2006 | 5:06 pm
      > I looked at Thunderbird. I was not sufficiently impressed to make an
      > exception.
      understood. thunderbird is... interesting... from a usability
      standpoint. i've been using it for about 1.5 years now, and i've never
      been impressed. but it's addictive - i've explored other clients in
      that time and there are features in tbird i can't sacrifice at this
      point. the identity handling is the big one. (my previous long-term
      client was a thoroughly tweaked pine, if that lends perspective.)
      mail.app is just too inflexible and too limited in my view. it's
      pretty, but it's shallow.