pointer at the begening of coll

    May 10 2006 | 7:20 am

    • May 10 2006 | 9:49 am
      i think i use 'end, next' to do the same thing..
      a thing i personally don't like about coll is that it simply returns
      nothing if a symbol key is not present.
      For these kinds of issues there are workarounds, however inelegant they
      may sometimes seem, and since coll is an ancient and venerable object
      (has it been around since the beginning ??) i think it is very unlikely
      that there will be any major changes to it...
      you can always make your own wrapper-abstraction around coll and make
      it as elegant as you wish..
    • May 10 2006 | 11:45 am
      message [start, bang] to coll object.
      Please note:
      this message appears to be not documented any more on .pdf
      documentation but it always remains the possibility to watch (and
      check) messages to objects by alt-ctrl-clic on the object itself in
      edit mode.
      HTH, sincerely
    • May 10 2006 | 12:04 pm
      i knew about that short cut but i didn't think of checking for a start
      message with coll... i'll have a look at that,