Hi shivadonga, I think a lot of people start out with the "I am not a programmer" belief, and then find themselves making their own stuff one day. The thing to do is to open up both of those patches and see if you can identify the functional parts that do the things you like. Are there similarities? what’s different? You can option-click objects in an unlocked patch to see the "Help Patch" and learn what each object does. You might find that it’s not that hard to alter one of them to remove the restrictions that are getting in the way of your idea. Let us know what happens.