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I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an 

audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan 

There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~, 

vbapan~ etc.) that I can use for this purpose.

This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of 

travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.

My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc. 

Reliability is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is not 

so important. I tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.

What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround 

panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 4.6.3 

I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an  
audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan  
music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.

There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~,  
vbapan~ etc.) that I can use for this purpose.

This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of  
travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.

My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc.  
Reliability is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is not  
so important. I tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.

What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround  
panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 4.6.3  
or is 5 OK?

rewire-surround-questions

I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results with 

soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.

I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in any 

of these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will have 

to tell your patch where the speakers are.

On Jun 5, 2008, at 17:28, Zip Boterbloem wrote:

> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an 

> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan 

> music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.

> There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~, 

> vbapan~ etc.) that I can use for this purpose.

> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of 

> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.

> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc. 

> Reliability is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is 

> not so important. I tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.

> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround 

> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 4.6.3 

I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results with  
soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.

I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in any  
of these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will have  
to tell your patch where the speakers are.

> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an  
> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan  
> music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.
>
> There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~,  
> vbapan~ etc.) that I can use for this purpose.
>
> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of  
> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.
>
> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc.  
> Reliability is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is  
> not so important. I tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.
>
> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround  
> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 4.6.3  
> or is 5 OK?
>
> Best,
>
> Zip
>
>


I'm currently working with a soundflower + ICST Ambisonics combo, working like a charm with *almost* zero crashes (excepted sometimes when opening some help files during the set). I had a very bad time with rewire~, far from being bombproof IMHO. Maybe it depends the platform you're on. (Mac here) 

I'm currently working with a soundflower + ICST Ambisonics combo,  working like a charm with *almost* zero crashes (excepted sometimes when opening some help files during the set). I had a very bad time with rewire~, far from being bombproof IMHO. Maybe it depends the platform you're on. (Mac here) 


Thanks for the info. I will look into Soundflower. Haven't used it 

Op 6-jun-2008, om 3:58 heeft mattyo het volgende geschreven:

> I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results 

> with soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.

> I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in 

> any of these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will 

> have to tell your patch where the speakers are.

> On Jun 5, 2008, at 17:28, Zip Boterbloem wrote:

>> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an 

>> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to 

>> pan music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.

>> There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~, 

>> vbapan~ etc.) that I can use for this purpose.

>> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of 

>> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.

>> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc. 

>> Reliability is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is 

>> not so important. I tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.

>> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround 

>> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 

Thanks for the info. I will look into Soundflower. Haven't used it  
for quite a while.

> I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results  
> with soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.
>
> I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in  
> any of these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will  
> have to tell your patch where the speakers are.
>
> M
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2008, at 17:28, Zip Boterbloem wrote:
>
>> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an  
>> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to  
>> pan music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.
>>
>> There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~,  
>> vbapan~ etc.) that I can use for this purpose.
>>
>> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of  
>> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.
>>
>> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc.  
>> Reliability is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is  
>> not so important. I tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.
>>
>> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround  
>> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max  
>> 4.6.3 or is 5 OK?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Zip
>>
>>
>


Op 6-jun-2008, om 7:41 heeft Philippe Jelli het volgende geschreven:

> I'm currently working with a soundflower + ICST Ambisonics combo, 

> working like a charm with *almost* zero crashes (excepted sometimes 

> when opening some help files during the set). I had a very bad time 

> with rewire~, far from being bombproof IMHO. Maybe it depends the 

>
> I'm currently working with a soundflower + ICST Ambisonics combo,   
> working like a charm with *almost* zero crashes (excepted sometimes  
> when opening some help files during the set). I had a very bad time  
> with rewire~, far from being bombproof IMHO. Maybe it depends the  
> platform you're on. (Mac here)
>
>


if you are on a mac use JACK. it is very reliable.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Zip Boterbloem wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I will look into Soundflower. Haven't used it for quite

> Op 6-jun-2008, om 3:58 heeft mattyo het volgende geschreven:

>> I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results with

>> soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.

>> I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in any of

>> these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will have to tell

>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 17:28, Zip Boterbloem wrote:

>>> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an

>>> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan

>>> music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.

>>> There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~, vbapan~

>>> etc.) that I can use for this purpose.

>>> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of

>>> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.

>>> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc. Reliability

>>> is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is not so important. I

>>> tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.

>>> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround

>>> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 4.6.3 or is 5

if you are on a mac use JACK.  it is very reliable.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Zip Boterbloem  wrote:
> Thanks for the info. I will look into Soundflower. Haven't used it for quite
> a while.
>
> Op 6-jun-2008, om 3:58 heeft mattyo het volgende geschreven:
>
>> I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results with
>> soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.
>>
>> I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in any of
>> these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will have to tell
>> your patch where the speakers are.
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 17:28, Zip Boterbloem wrote:
>>
>>> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an
>>> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan
>>> music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.
>>>
>>> There are plenty of surround externals floating around (ambipan~, vbapan~
>>> etc.) that I can use for this purpose.
>>>
>>> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of
>>> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.
>>>
>>> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc. Reliability
>>> is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is not so important. I
>>> tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.
>>>
>>> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround
>>> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 4.6.3 or is 5
>>> OK?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Zip
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


Testing SoundFlower and vbapan~ under Max 4.6.3. No problems so far. 

I also have/use Jack, but soundflower is more of a no-brainer for 

Op 6-jun-2008, om 13:44 heeft carey dodge het volgende geschreven:

> if you are on a mac use JACK. it is very reliable.

> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Zip Boterbloem wrote:

>> Thanks for the info. I will look into Soundflower. Haven't used it 

>> Op 6-jun-2008, om 3:58 heeft mattyo het volgende geschreven:

>>> I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results 

>>> soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.

>>> I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in 

>>> these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will have 

>>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 17:28, Zip Boterbloem wrote:

>>>> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an

>>>> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan

>>>> music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.

>>>> There are plenty of surround externals floating around 

>>>> etc.) that I can use for this purpose.

>>>> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of

>>>> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.

>>>> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc. 

>>>> is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is not so 

>>>> tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.

>>>> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround

>>>> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max 

Testing SoundFlower and vbapan~ under Max 4.6.3. No problems so far.  
I also have/use Jack, but soundflower is more of a no-brainer for  
theatre soundengineers.

> if you are on a mac use JACK.  it is very reliable.
>
> i don't like rewire, either
>
> cheers,
>
> Carey
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Zip Boterbloem  wrote:
>> Thanks for the info. I will look into Soundflower. Haven't used it  
>> for quite
>> a while.
>>
>> Op 6-jun-2008, om 3:58 heeft mattyo het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>> I personally hate rewire, & have had much more consistent results  
>>> with
>>> soundflower, if the sending app is compatible.
>>>
>>> I have never had a stability problem with vbap~l, although (as in  
>>> any of
>>> these spatialization things) your non-trained engineers will have  
>>> to tell
>>> your patch where the speakers are.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 5, 2008, at 17:28, Zip Boterbloem wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been asked to write a little Max program that receives an
>>>> audiostream via rewire and uses some sort of surround panner to pan
>>>> music/sfx around 4 and 8 speaker arrays.
>>>>
>>>> There are plenty of surround externals floating around  
>>>> (ambipan~, vbapan~
>>>> etc.) that I can use for this purpose.
>>>>
>>>> This has to be used in a messy theatre production with lots of
>>>> travelling, tight deadlines, stress, and non-Max trained engineers.
>>>>
>>>> My main concern is the absence of weird crashes, hiccups etc.  
>>>> Reliability
>>>> is key. Really exact location of the panned sounds is not so  
>>>> important. I
>>>> tried ambipan~ and crashed within minutes.
>>>>
>>>> What are other people's favorite objects/ways of reliable surround
>>>> panning? Is rewire~ bombproof at all? Should I stick with max  
>>>> 4.6.3 or is 5
>>>> OK?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Zip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>


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