i am designing a synthesis program and trying to save all the settings in the patch by using the autopattr object. all the objects i am using are recognized, except filtergraph (or cascade for that matter). I realize that the filtergraph and the cascade objects will not output any info for autopattr, but i need some way to save the filter settings. my patch has multiple subpachers with a filtergraph in each one, and i have an autopattr in each subpatch and one in the parent patch. also, i have tried a number of ways using the preset object within the subpatchers and using a preset object from the master patcher (with its 'included objects' cable going into the filtergraphs in the subpatch), but there is no security in this effort. preset always forgets the subpatcher's filtergraph settings after i write a file with the write command. please help if anyone knows a method or object that will allow me to complete my patch.