segmented patch cord neatness and ambiguity


    Mar 27 2006 | 3:58 pm
    Lot's of discussion recently on ways of working in Max, efficiently
    coding, etc.. So, a question and feature request for segmented patch
    cords:
    1) Question - I notice in many Max help files and in other people's
    patches that when segmented patch cords are used, people manage to
    line up the segments from multiple connections very neatly, so they
    all line up, like this example from page 85 of the Max Tutorials
    documentation:
    Is there any easy way to get the patch cords to "line up"? Ideally,
    I'd like to be able to "Align" the patch cords like one can do now
    with objects (command Y). I find myself often trying, and missing by
    a pixel or two, and things look ugly (I know, I'm type A), like this:
    2) Feature request - notice in the first example above that there is
    ambiguity introduced; one can't tell where the number boxes in the
    top row are connected to by just looking. This is the main reason
    that I often *don't* use segmented patch cords, even though I'd like
    to from a neatness perspective. I wonder if there isn't some smart
    UI change that could be implemented to more clearly illustrate what
    is connected to what in these types of cases?
    Thanks,
    Dan
    --
    Dan Nigrin
    Defective Records
    202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X
    http://www.defectiverecords.com

    • Mar 27 2006 | 4:23 pm
    • Mar 27 2006 | 4:48 pm
      At 11:23 AM -0500 3/27/06, Peter McCulloch wrote:
      >>Is there any easy way to get the patch cords to "line up"?
      >>Ideally, I'd like to be able to "Align" the patch cords like one
      >>can do now with objects (command Y). I find myself often trying,
      >>and missing by a pixel or two, and things look ugly (I know, I'm
      >>type A), like this:
      >>
      >If you align the objects first (in your example, highlight the
      >number boxes, then align them), then select the patch cords (using
      >option-drag) and do align (to make the segmented patch cords) then
      >they should segment at the same y position. If you segment, then
      >align, you'll probably have to do the hand-tweaking.
      Holy smokes -- I never knew that Align worked like that with patch
      cords - thanks! Now I feel silly...
      >>2) Feature request - notice in the first example above that there
      >>is ambiguity introduced; one can't tell where the number boxes in
      >>the top row are connected to by just looking. This is the main
      >>reason that I often *don't* use segmented patch cords, even though
      >>I'd like to from a neatness perspective. I wonder if there isn't
      >>some smart UI change that could be implemented to more clearly
      >>illustrate what is connected to what in these types of cases?
      >>
      >
      >Generally speaking, colored patch cords take care of most of these
      >issues. Also, if you wanted to keep the two different paths from
      >having the same segment position, move one group up a couple of
      >spaces, then segment, then move back down. The Duplicate trick is
      >also useful for making separated patch cords: Duplicate, move it
      >into the x position desired (using the arrow keys), then move it up
      >several spaces (4 works well) and keep duplicating. Segment, then
      >align, and you'll have patch cords with a small space in between
      >each cord.
      Thanks Peter, I'll give it a shot.
      Dan
      --
      Dan Nigrin
      Defective Records
      202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X
      http://www.defectiverecords.com
    • Mar 27 2006 | 5:06 pm
      Also, be sure to check out "Extras" > "Tips" for a slew of other very
      useful Max shortcuts.
      Peter McCulloch