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    Dec 10 2006 | 5:44 pm
    Old and busted: textedit
    New hotness: this thing
    -matt

    • Dec 10 2006 | 5:55 pm
      Hey that's great, except that you can't delete characters, get ascii
      values of depressed keys, output words on the basis of clicking, or
      store the text you've typed. Hot indeed!
      What's your beef with textedit?
      jb
      p.s. your patch is actually cool, but those of us who write this
      software you love to hate prefer constructive criticism, where possible.
      Am 10.12.2006 um 18:44 schrieb matthew aidekman:
      > Old and busted: textedit
      > New hotness: this thing
    • Dec 10 2006 | 8:05 pm
      On Sun, 10 Dec 2006, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
      > What's your beef with textedit?
      Maybe not Matthew's beefiness, but here's mine:
      1. Won't preserve carriage returns or newlines on saving.
      2. (one of my faves) Save text that has an imbedded 'special character',
      like a script that says "var = $1". Then reopen. Try escaping
      the 'special character', "var = $1". Save and reopen several
      times. It's just like MAGIC!
      3. No way to disable sending of text out the left-most outlet once any
      new text has been entered (i.e. set it to only send text with a
      bang, so that mistypings don't get sent automatically).
      But you guys knew all this already...
      Can't you, like, write a fully-featured word processor and imbed it in
      Max in your spare time? :-)
      brad
    • Dec 10 2006 | 8:49 pm
      I can explain. First of all, I'm so sorry.. I'm a frequenter of
      an awfully stupid website called fark.com. Fark allows visitors to
      submit alternative headlines to news articles. One recurring theme
      on fark is " old and busted___ new hotness____"
      I've included some headlines I found searching the "Farkives" this
      should help you understand the spirit I posted in. Fark is pretty
      popular, sometimes I forget their cliches aren't part of larger net
      culture.
      The reason I presented an alternative to textedit is the following.
      Sometimes I look for different tools that do the same thing
      differently. Imagine using textedit in the multitude of every day
      places you enter text. Mail, Track names, file names, calendar
      items, spreadsheets, or even object names
      Again sorry for the confusion
      -matt
      Old and busted: Wheelchair basketball.
      New hotness: Wheelchair rappelling
      Old and busted: Streaking at sporting events.
      New hotness: Streaking at church
      Old and busted: Power cables.
      New hotness: Power over Ethernet
      Old and busted: Magic the Gathering.
      New hotness: Pope JPII trading cards
      Old and busted: Spa mud baths.
      New hotness: Austria's beer baths
      Old and busted senior-citizen activities: Mah-jong, muffin baking.
      New hotness: "Becoming one of America's elite warriors," pushing
      "physical and mental limits beyond anything" known
      Old and busted: Hot air ballooning.
      New hotness: Tying a few dozen helium balloons to a lawn chair
      Old and busted: Wal-Mart calling police when a black man attempts to
      cash a check.
      New hotness: Wal-Mart calling police when a group of choir students
      show up to sing holiday songs
      Old and Busted: Conservative morons trying to keep kids away from
      Harry Potter.
      New Hotness: Liberal morons trying to keep kids away from Chronicles
      of Narnia
      Old and busted: CCTV surveillance cameras.
      New hotness: CCTV surveillance cameras that shout at you
    • Dec 10 2006 | 9:46 pm
      > Can't you, like, write a fully-featured word processor and imbed it
      > in Max in your spare time? :-)
      I fully understand cyclings obligations to absolute portability. and
      I don't question it. That being said, it can be a bit frustrating to
      not have access to the dumb (or new and cool) things that apple has
      provided to most developers for years. I'm no programmer, but
      sometimes I wish Cycling sold a platform dependent library with
      things like... hierarchal menus resizable windows. or scroll bars.
      I know I know... I need learn C its on my list of things to do.
      -matt
    • Dec 10 2006 | 9:46 pm
      pft. No need to apologize. I actually like your solution, and have
      used something very very similar in my v001 system to use comments as
      dynamic titles for my UI elements. :)
      On Dec 10, 2006, at 3:49 PM, matthew aidekman wrote:
      > I can explain. First of all, I'm so sorry.. I'm a frequenter
      > of an awfully stupid website called fark.com. Fark allows visitors
      > to submit alternative headlines to news articles. One recurring
      > theme on fark is " old and busted___ new hotness____"
      >
      > I've included some headlines I found searching the "Farkives" this
      > should help you understand the spirit I posted in. Fark is pretty
      > popular, sometimes I forget their cliches aren't part of larger
      > net culture.
      >
      > The reason I presented an alternative to textedit is the
      > following. Sometimes I look for different tools that do the same
      > thing differently. Imagine using textedit in the multitude of
      > every day places you enter text. Mail, Track names, file names,
      > calendar items, spreadsheets, or even object names
      >
      > Again sorry for the confusion
      > -matt
      >
      >
      >
      > Old and busted: Wheelchair basketball.
      > New hotness: Wheelchair rappelling
      >
      > Old and busted: Streaking at sporting events.
      > New hotness: Streaking at church
      >
      > Old and busted: Power cables.
      > New hotness: Power over Ethernet
      >
      > Old and busted: Magic the Gathering.
      > New hotness: Pope JPII trading cards
      >
      > Old and busted: Spa mud baths.
      > New hotness: Austria's beer baths
      >
      > Old and busted senior-citizen activities: Mah-jong, muffin baking.
      > New hotness: "Becoming one of America's elite warriors," pushing
      > "physical and mental limits beyond anything" known
      >
      > Old and busted: Hot air ballooning.
      > New hotness: Tying a few dozen helium balloons to a lawn chair
      >
      > Old and busted: Wal-Mart calling police when a black man attempts
      > to cash a check.
      > New hotness: Wal-Mart calling police when a group of choir students
      > show up to sing holiday songs
      >
      > Old and Busted: Conservative morons trying to keep kids away from
      > Harry Potter.
      > New Hotness: Liberal morons trying to keep kids away from
      > Chronicles of Narnia
      >
      > Old and busted: CCTV surveillance cameras.
      > New hotness: CCTV surveillance cameras that shout at you
      >
      >
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    • Dec 10 2006 | 9:52 pm
      >I can explain. First of all, I'm so sorry.. I'm a frequenter of
      >an awfully stupid website called fark.com. Fark allows visitors to
      >submit alternative headlines to news articles. One recurring theme
      >on fark is " old and busted___ new hotness____"
      Just so you're not feeling totally alone on this one... I'm a daily farker myself, and I got the reference right away.
    • Dec 10 2006 | 11:14 pm
      That's for sure. Just pointing out the context in which your posts
      are read.
      jb
      Am 10.12.2006 um 22:46 schrieb vade:
      > No need to apologize
    • Dec 11 2006 | 2:57 am
      matthew aidekman wrote:
      > The reason I presented an alternative to textedit is the following.
      > Sometimes I look for different tools that do the same thing
      > differently. Imagine using textedit in the multitude of every day
      > places you enter text. Mail, Track names, file names, calendar items,
      > spreadsheets, or even object names
      I have a stupid recurring fantasy of replacing some of those things with
      a few Max patches. Don't feed the monkey with the hammer.
    • Dec 11 2006 | 11:31 pm
    • Dec 15 2006 | 7:58 am
      Hi Jeremy,
      > What's your beef with textedit?
      - It's background can't be set to transparent;
      - No optional 'draw border frame' feature.
      > p.s. your patch is actually cool, but those of us who write this
      > software you love to hate prefer constructive criticism, where
      > possible.
      Not a criticism, just an old wish.
      ps: I never hated you!!!
      Best ;-)
      P.Gruchet