soundcard w/ more then 24 outputs_any idea ?


    Jan 25 2006 | 5:21 pm
    hi List , I will be working for an artist whose intent is to display sound objects from 144 speakers. therefore with my collaborator we are looking at the best solution in terms of soundcards. Of course we are not hoping to have one channel per speaker, but we still try to figure out the best solution. we will probably using a G4 tower ( w/ OSX 10.4, max/msp 4.5.4 ) since the installation does not require that much MSP process other then just reading small soundfiles and dispatching them through various channels.
    we are thinking in investing in the 24i/o MOTU interface. http://www.zzounds.com/item--MTU24IO
    does any one have another suggestion or advice ? quantiy rather then quality being the goal of this piece.
    thanks in advance, i have been trying to find the answer in previous threads but could not find satisfaction ;)
    a bientot
    www.marswalkers.org

    • Jan 25 2006 | 5:55 pm
      > I will be working for an artist whose intent is to display sound > objects from 144 speakers.
      One way is to use a matrix system which is basically panning your input mono/stereo signal to 8 speakers based on a control signal. One example is this box (only 128 outputs, though): http://www.soundscape-studios.no/produkter/dvc/e_dvc.html
      ARJ'
    • Jan 25 2006 | 6:14 pm
      On 25-janv.-06, at 18:21, karl-otto von wrote:
      > does any one have another suggestion or advice ?
      With the pci424, you can plug "only" 4 motu 24i/o, and anyway, the pci424 manages only 96 channels. But you can also try to add firewire interfaces and do an aggregate. Curious to see wether OSX can manage so many outputs.
      I once worked with 2 motu interfaces, and it seemed I had access to all 28 channels without any problem.
      p
    • Jan 25 2006 | 6:19 pm
      Hello Karl
      At BEAST, we have often done 4 x 24 i/o (96 i/o) on one single pci-424 in a g5, without any problem. Lots of pleasure, no hasle, all the drivers behaving perfectly. Not cheap, but really reliable.
      good luck
      pa
      ps CoreAudio sees it as one 96 in/out interface, which simplify the task greatly.
    • Jan 26 2006 | 8:23 am
      Hello,
      i would suggest to use any MADI solution. Advantages : 64-128 tracks / BNC for not so much money, long long long long range available (not like adat), handy. The RME HDSP MADI is the best i could advice you. You will have to rent a mix console that has a MADI option, but all digital Yamaha's can get the optionnal card for MADI handling and it's not much in the final bill (if you're not buying it, of course !).
      best regards
      f.e
    • Jan 26 2006 | 8:25 am
      I forget to tell : if you're on a laptop, there's an adaptater that works to plug PCI with PCMCIA...
      cheers
      f.e
    • Jan 26 2006 | 8:42 am
      If I remember correctly the motu's can be linked, they even promissed at one point that when a musician needed more in/outs then the linked motu system could deliver they took the guy out for dinner (and I'm not kidding)
      best regards pieter
    • Jan 26 2006 | 10:50 am
      > If I remember correctly the motu's can be linked, they even > promissed at one point that when a musician needed more in/outs > then the linked motu system could deliver they took the guy out for > dinner (and I'm not kidding)
      From the old Emagic Unitor 8 manual:
      "If one fine day you should discover that 16 Unitor8 units are not sufficient anymore, we would like to treat you to dinner in order to find a profitable solution together."
      [= 2048 midi chans, 16 Unitors via 2 serial ports on old Macs]
      MOTU/audio linkage more modest, I fear...
      dh
    • Jan 26 2006 | 5:19 pm
      thanks for your advices,
      the RME solution seems attempting , could you give me more info on how it would work on the msp end . would i have to control the mixer through midi ? or do i use the dac~ in the same way i would with a regular firewire soundcard.
      ( dac~ 1 2 3 ... 96 ? )
      i have never worked with an RME Hammerfall HDSP MADI 24/96 128 Channel PCI Interface before.
      thanks
      >Hello,
      i would suggest to use any MADI solution. Advantages : 64-128 tracks / BNC for not so much money, long long long long range available (not like adat), handy. The RME HDSP MADI is the best i could advice you. You will have to rent a mix console that has a MADI option, but all digital Yamaha's can get the optionnal card for MADI handling and it's not much in the final bill (if you're not buying it, of course !).
      best regards
      f.e
    • Jan 26 2006 | 5:41 pm
      the dac~ solution is the way to go - in the old days (that is OS9 on mac, and max.... some old max, maybe 3.xxx) there was a possibility to control the internal mixer of the RME from max, with a special max object, but (as far as i understand) since RME did change the internal architecture the old code does not work, and RME never answered mails asking for the new implementation - i found a developer (Laurent Pottier) ready to write a new object, but we never receiced any answer from RME
      best
      kasper -- Kasper T. Toeplitz noise, composition, bass, computer http://www.sleazeArt.com
    • Jan 27 2006 | 8:52 am