stoping recording, small problem i hope


    Jan 22 2007 | 2:58 pm
    i am trying to get the microphone to stop recording 2 seconds after the first bang but if i put a delay bang to toggle it stops the playback as well. does anybody know how to stop the recording but not the playback?
    cheers james

    • Jan 22 2007 | 3:01 pm
      sorry forgot the buffer
    • Jan 22 2007 | 3:25 pm
      Dear James,
      By default record~ stops recording when it gets to the end anyway. You need to start record~ by sending a 1 in the left inlet. You can stop it manually by sending a 0 in the left inlet. The reset message will make sure that it records from the beginning the next time round. Below is your patch with only those changes.
      Yours truly, David
      james wrote: > i am trying to get the microphone to stop recording 2 seconds after the first bang but if i put a delay bang to toggle it stops the playback as well. does anybody know how to stop the recording but not the playback? > > cheers > james > > > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 690 693 31 196617 dac~; > #P newex 811 440 48 196617 loadbang; > #P newex 811 469 64 196617 metro 4000; > #P button 713 463 15 0; > #P button 811 501 15 0; > #P newex 711 444 43 196617 onebang; > #B color 5; > #P newex 679 546 61 196617 delay 2000; > #B color 5; > #P button 692 518 15 0; > #P button 678 571 15 0; > #P message 653 598 74 196617 0 , 2000 2000; > #P newex 693 626 30 196617 line~; > #P newex 591 554 73 196617 record~ red 2; > #B color 5; > #P newex 681 655 62 196617 play~ red 2; > #B color 5; > #P user number~ 598 595 637 610 9 3 3 2 0. 0. 0 0. 250 0. 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P button 716 401 26 0; > #P toggle 692 482 15 0; > #P user ezadc~ 594 493 638 526 0; > #P connect 1 0 0 0; > #P connect 1 0 9 0; > #P connect 14 0 12 0; > #P connect 15 0 14 0; > #P connect 12 0 11 1; > #P connect 11 0 13 0; > #P connect 4 1 16 1; > #P connect 2 0 11 0; > #P connect 7 0 6 0; > #P connect 13 0 1 0; > #P connect 4 0 16 0; > #P connect 6 0 4 0; > #P connect 9 0 10 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 7 0; > #P connect 0 1 5 1; > #P connect 5 0 3 0; > #P connect 0 0 5 0; > #P window clipboard copycount 17; >
    • Jan 22 2007 | 3:27 pm
    • Jan 22 2007 | 4:38 pm
      thanks i see what you mean, trouble is that when the bang is sent to toggle to record that toggle stays on, if i send a delay 2 secs later to reset it so it can record agin for the next bang it sends a bang to the play......which isnt good. ???? james
    • Jan 22 2007 | 4:53 pm
      all sorted!!! cheers
    • Jan 22 2007 | 10:34 pm
      James, given the kinds of questions you're asking, I can't help thinking that a little time with the tutorials would be a great help to you. While they may not answer every question, or answer them in the way you might phrase them, a good sense of the basics would help you reach your goals a good deal quicker, and in a less frustrating manner for you.
      Just a word of advice.
    • Jan 23 2007 | 1:24 pm
      i have looked at the tutorials, there are certain things that i dont know still, i thought that was what the forum was for, my mistake.
    • Jan 23 2007 | 2:42 pm
      On 23-Jan-2007, at 14:24, james wrote:
      > i have looked at the tutorials, there are certain things that i > dont know still, i thought that was what the forum was for, my > mistake.
      The mail list/forum (yes, Virginia, this is also a mail list) has
      - experienced users helping each other with highly challenging problems, - moderately experience users asking fairly standard questions, with the occasional interesting problem, - newbies who've made an attempt to work through the available documentation but who ask FAQs and RTFMs, sometimes despite trying very hard to work out answers for themselves, - newbies who can't be bothered to make any effort at all and expect the list to do everything for them and then complain that Max isn't Reaktor. - and various shades in between and beyond...
      There is probably sufficient critical mass to support more than one list, although Cycling '74 seems to prefer the one-size-fits-all approach. As a result I have a burgeoning killfile of people from the fourth category above.
      What I actually wanted to suggest was that, perhaps, Wally & Co. might want to consider a split into two lists, one for newbies and one for tough problems?
      I was a newbie once, too, and I haven't forgotten what it was like. For one thing, the tutorials had a lot more rough spots back then. But attentive reading (not merely "looking at") would eliminate about 80% of the list traffic.
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    • Jan 23 2007 | 2:54 pm
      There are a couple of problems to this suggestion, which on the surface describes a very logical and potentially desirable situation:
      - No one wants to self-identify as a newbie. - Who's going to help the newbies, if all of the experienced users are sitting at the grown-up table? - Ergo, anyone who would be willing to condemn themselves to the beginner's forum would eventually, out of sheer frustration that their questions don't get answered, storm the palace gates and hang out with the old hands.
      I think I prefer the situation as it is, even if it's not ideal.
      jb
      Am 23.01.2007 um 15:42 schrieb Peter Castine:
      > one for newbies and one for tough problems
    • Jan 23 2007 | 3:36 pm
      And leave "urgent" out of your message. There are lots of busy people on the list and, if they are like me with technology, urgency is almost all the time. Just ask your question. There are enough people on this list with all levels of expertise. Most of them/us are generous and willing to take a stab at an answer. The collective memory of this list is amazing.
      Cheers Gary Lee Nelson Oberlin College www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
      On 1/23/07 9:54 AM, "Jeremy Bernstein" wrote:
      > There are a couple of problems to this suggestion, which on the > surface describes a very logical and potentially desirable situation: > > - No one wants to self-identify as a newbie. > - Who's going to help the newbies, if all of the experienced users > are sitting at the grown-up table? > - Ergo, anyone who would be willing to condemn themselves to the > beginner's forum would eventually, out of sheer frustration that > their questions don't get answered, storm the palace gates and hang > out with the old hands. > > I think I prefer the situation as it is, even if it's not ideal. > > jb
    • Jan 23 2007 | 4:07 pm
      An acquaintance of mine tells me that one of his standard pieces of advice to new students is almost always, "Go back to the documents and sit down and actually *read* the stuff you skipped over because you thought it was obvious or easy...."
      The clever trainspotter may have noticed that the title of one of the Max manuals has changed.
      It used to be called "Getting Started." It is now called "Fundamentals." One reason for this is that whenever one suggested that someone read the "Getting Started" manual, the standard response was, "What? You think I'm stupid?" Apparently, no one thinks that there could be anything useful in the "Getting Started" bits of a manual [or, for that matter, the Audio or How Max Works chapters where things like turning the dac~ on and off are discussed in detail, along with signal vector sizes, Overdrive, and the like]. The hope is that someone somewhere might be statistically slightly more likely to actually *read* something called "Fundamentals."
      While it's usually very easy to separate out cargo-cult patchers [I'll just hook something up and post to the list if nothing happens] from new users, one can almost guarantee with "I'll bet you a pint" certainty who has and has not read the basics rather than merely messed with help files based on a number of errors that all come down to not knowing what a list is, what a message is, order of processing, and the like.
      And I know this because I was one of those "I don't need to know any of this stuff/I never read anything" people. Screwing around with help files is no substitute for doing the tutorials. And skimming them on the bus is no substitute for actually doing them. While that's patently obvious when trying slabbery in Jitter or making a run at FFTs, it's no less so for the more humble everyday things about Max that you use all day every day. Honest.
    • Jan 24 2007 | 10:34 pm
      Jeremy Bernstein wrote: > I think I prefer the situation as it is, even if it's not ideal.
      I agree, and ever so often a newbie answers a newbie with a wrong advice, then they certainly need both help to sort it out...
      Its more a difficulty for the oldies to learn to adapt to it and just leave out one or another answer... (I am bad at that, it eats too much of my time.... ;-)
      Stefan
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