stoping recording, small problem i hope


    Jan 22 2007 | 2:58 pm
    i am trying to get the microphone to stop recording 2 seconds after the first bang but if i put a delay bang to toggle it stops the playback as well. does anybody know how to stop the recording but not the playback?
    cheers
    james

    • Jan 22 2007 | 3:01 pm
      sorry forgot the buffer
    • Jan 22 2007 | 3:25 pm
      Dear James,
      By default record~ stops recording when it gets to the end anyway. You
      need to start record~ by sending a 1 in the left inlet. You can stop it
      manually by sending a 0 in the left inlet. The reset message will make
      sure that it records from the beginning the next time round. Below is
      your patch with only those changes.
      Yours truly,
      David
      james wrote:
      > i am trying to get the microphone to stop recording 2 seconds after the first bang but if i put a delay bang to toggle it stops the playback as well. does anybody know how to stop the recording but not the playback?
      >
      > cheers
      > james
      >
      >
      > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
      > #P window linecount 1;
      > #P newex 690 693 31 196617 dac~;
      > #P newex 811 440 48 196617 loadbang;
      > #P newex 811 469 64 196617 metro 4000;
      > #P button 713 463 15 0;
      > #P button 811 501 15 0;
      > #P newex 711 444 43 196617 onebang;
      > #B color 5;
      > #P newex 679 546 61 196617 delay 2000;
      > #B color 5;
      > #P button 692 518 15 0;
      > #P button 678 571 15 0;
      > #P message 653 598 74 196617 0 , 2000 2000;
      > #P newex 693 626 30 196617 line~;
      > #P newex 591 554 73 196617 record~ red 2;
      > #B color 5;
      > #P newex 681 655 62 196617 play~ red 2;
      > #B color 5;
      > #P user number~ 598 595 637 610 9 3 3 2 0. 0. 0 0. 250 0. 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
      > #P button 716 401 26 0;
      > #P toggle 692 482 15 0;
      > #P user ezadc~ 594 493 638 526 0;
      > #P connect 1 0 0 0;
      > #P connect 1 0 9 0;
      > #P connect 14 0 12 0;
      > #P connect 15 0 14 0;
      > #P connect 12 0 11 1;
      > #P connect 11 0 13 0;
      > #P connect 4 1 16 1;
      > #P connect 2 0 11 0;
      > #P connect 7 0 6 0;
      > #P connect 13 0 1 0;
      > #P connect 4 0 16 0;
      > #P connect 6 0 4 0;
      > #P connect 9 0 10 0;
      > #P connect 10 0 8 0;
      > #P connect 8 0 7 0;
      > #P connect 0 1 5 1;
      > #P connect 5 0 3 0;
      > #P connect 0 0 5 0;
      > #P window clipboard copycount 17;
      >
    • Jan 22 2007 | 3:27 pm
    • Jan 22 2007 | 4:38 pm
      thanks i see what you mean, trouble is that when the bang is sent to toggle to record that toggle stays on, if i send a delay 2 secs later to reset it so it can record agin for the next bang it sends a bang to the play......which isnt good.
      ????
      james
    • Jan 22 2007 | 4:53 pm
      all sorted!!! cheers
    • Jan 22 2007 | 10:34 pm
      James, given the kinds of questions you're
      asking, I can't help thinking that a little
      time with the tutorials would be a great help
      to you. While they may not answer every question,
      or answer them in the way you might phrase them,
      a good sense of the basics would help you reach
      your goals a good deal quicker, and in a less
      frustrating manner for you.
      Just a word of advice.
    • Jan 23 2007 | 1:24 pm
      i have looked at the tutorials, there are certain things that i dont know still, i thought that was what the forum was for, my mistake.
    • Jan 23 2007 | 2:42 pm
      On 23-Jan-2007, at 14:24, james wrote:
      > i have looked at the tutorials, there are certain things that i
      > dont know still, i thought that was what the forum was for, my
      > mistake.
      The mail list/forum (yes, Virginia, this is also a mail list) has
      - experienced users helping each other with highly challenging problems,
      - moderately experience users asking fairly standard questions, with
      the occasional interesting problem,
      - newbies who've made an attempt to work through the available
      documentation but who ask FAQs and RTFMs, sometimes despite
      trying very hard to work out answers for themselves,
      - newbies who can't be bothered to make any effort at all and expect
      the list to do everything for them and then complain that Max isn't
      Reaktor.
      - and various shades in between and beyond...
      There is probably sufficient critical mass to support more than one
      list, although Cycling '74 seems to prefer the one-size-fits-all
      approach. As a result I have a burgeoning killfile of people from the
      fourth category above.
      What I actually wanted to suggest was that, perhaps, Wally & Co.
      might want to consider a split into two lists, one for newbies and
      one for tough problems?
      I was a newbie once, too, and I haven't forgotten what it was like.
      For one thing, the tutorials had a lot more rough spots back then.
      But attentive reading (not merely "looking at") would eliminate about
      80% of the list traffic.
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    • Jan 23 2007 | 2:54 pm
      There are a couple of problems to this suggestion, which on the
      surface describes a very logical and potentially desirable situation:
      - No one wants to self-identify as a newbie.
      - Who's going to help the newbies, if all of the experienced users
      are sitting at the grown-up table?
      - Ergo, anyone who would be willing to condemn themselves to the
      beginner's forum would eventually, out of sheer frustration that
      their questions don't get answered, storm the palace gates and hang
      out with the old hands.
      I think I prefer the situation as it is, even if it's not ideal.
      jb
      Am 23.01.2007 um 15:42 schrieb Peter Castine:
      > one for newbies and one for tough problems
    • Jan 23 2007 | 3:36 pm
      And leave "urgent" out of your message. There are lots of busy people on
      the list and, if they are like me with technology, urgency is almost all the
      time. Just ask your question. There are enough people on this list with
      all levels of expertise. Most of them/us are generous and willing to take a
      stab at an answer. The collective memory of this list is amazing.
      Cheers
      Gary Lee Nelson
      Oberlin College
      www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson
      On 1/23/07 9:54 AM, "Jeremy Bernstein" wrote:
      > There are a couple of problems to this suggestion, which on the
      > surface describes a very logical and potentially desirable situation:
      >
      > - No one wants to self-identify as a newbie.
      > - Who's going to help the newbies, if all of the experienced users
      > are sitting at the grown-up table?
      > - Ergo, anyone who would be willing to condemn themselves to the
      > beginner's forum would eventually, out of sheer frustration that
      > their questions don't get answered, storm the palace gates and hang
      > out with the old hands.
      >
      > I think I prefer the situation as it is, even if it's not ideal.
      >
      > jb
    • Jan 23 2007 | 4:07 pm
      An acquaintance of mine tells me that one of his
      standard pieces of advice to new students is almost
      always, "Go back to the documents and sit down
      and actually *read* the stuff you skipped over
      because you thought it was obvious or easy...."
      The clever trainspotter may have noticed that
      the title of one of the Max manuals has changed.
      It used to be called "Getting Started." It is
      now called "Fundamentals." One reason for this
      is that whenever one suggested that someone
      read the "Getting Started" manual, the standard
      response was, "What? You think I'm stupid?"
      Apparently, no one thinks that there could be
      anything useful in the "Getting Started" bits
      of a manual [or, for that matter, the Audio
      or How Max Works chapters where things like
      turning the dac~ on and off are discussed in
      detail, along with signal vector sizes, Overdrive,
      and the like]. The hope is that someone somewhere
      might be statistically slightly more likely to
      actually *read* something called "Fundamentals."
      While it's usually very easy to separate out
      cargo-cult patchers [I'll just hook something
      up and post to the list if nothing happens]
      from new users, one can almost guarantee with
      "I'll bet you a pint" certainty who has and has
      not read the basics rather than merely messed with
      help files based on a number of errors that all
      come down to not knowing what a list is, what a
      message is, order of processing, and the like.
      And I know this because I was one of those "I
      don't need to know any of this stuff/I never
      read anything" people. Screwing around with
      help files is no substitute for doing the
      tutorials. And skimming them on the bus is no
      substitute for actually doing them. While that's
      patently obvious when trying slabbery in Jitter
      or making a run at FFTs, it's no less so for
      the more humble everyday things about Max that
      you use all day every day. Honest.
    • Jan 24 2007 | 10:34 pm
      Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
      > I think I prefer the situation as it is, even if it's not ideal.
      I agree, and ever so often a newbie answers a newbie with a wrong
      advice, then they certainly need both help to sort it out...
      Its more a difficulty for the oldies to learn to adapt to it and just
      leave out one or another answer... (I am bad at that, it eats too much
      of my time.... ;-)
      Stefan
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