Tape Flutter


    May 19 2008 | 11:53 pm
    Is anyone out there working with tape emulation in Max5? Im very interested in 70's tape grain/flutter effects but am finding it difficult to replicate anything that doesn't spin out of control into a glitchy mess. Flanging Delays seems to be the first step... kind regards J

    • May 20 2008 | 5:02 pm
      Now I may be wrong but isn't tape flutter microtonal frequency modulation... try the freqshift~ object and very small numbers?
    • May 20 2008 | 11:04 pm
      freqshift~'s result seemed too AM. The help file led me to fbinshift~ which is less subtle but more along the line of what i'm looking for. Thanks. I'd love to know if anyone in the forum has been working mostly with cassettes? They have a really nostalgic effect i find which really draws me in.
    • May 20 2008 | 11:30 pm
      Modulated delay can work pretty well to create tape effects in real-time. This might help get you started:
      Cheers, Andrew B.
    • May 20 2008 | 11:57 pm
      hey andrew. Sorry for asking, Im new to the forum and feel i really should know this already but... how do i turn the text into a patch? Cheers J
    • May 21 2008 | 12:20 am
      Copy the text, open a new patcher in Max, paste.
    • May 21 2008 | 8:18 am
    • May 21 2008 | 9:51 am
      Yes very nostalgic indeed. I'm starting up a little recording studio in september and we've got ourselves a good old 16track studer taperecorder.
      2008/5/21 Jackson Bailey :
      > > freqshift~'s result seemed too AM. The help file led me to fbinshift~ which > is less subtle but more along the line of what i'm looking for. Thanks. > I'd love to know if anyone in the forum has been working mostly with > cassettes? They have a really nostalgic effect i find which really draws me > in. >
    • May 21 2008 | 10:15 am
      Quote: andrewb@cycling74.com wrote on Wed, 21 May 2008 01:30 ---------------------------------------------------- > Modulated delay can work pretty well to create tape effects in real-time. This might help get you started: > > ----------begin_max5_patcher---------- [schnipp] ----------------------------------------------------
      If you have Litter Pro you can use lp.frrr~ to do parabolic interpolation between random values. Gives a smoother and more analog-like flutter. It's only a minor edit to Andrew's patch.
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    • May 21 2008 | 4:09 pm
      I think you may be able to do this with freqshift~ but you have to use very low values. I haven't tried in max but I know it definitely has a similar quality in absynth.
    • May 21 2008 | 4:11 pm
      also, check out the allpass mode in biquad/filtercoeff, and make sure you add it to the original signal to get phasing, that can give nice phase cancellations similar to odd tape phasing. Also Phaseshift~ works well for this, again make sure you add to the original signal for cancellations to occur.
    • May 22 2008 | 10:21 am
      You might want to introduce some non-linear compression to the output too.
      You feed a distorted version of the signal path into a sidechain of a compressor.
      Can't see a sidechain on any on the Max ones (which would be quite an ommision for a dynamic processor) so might have to use a VST or something. P
      On 21/05/2008, Nicholas C. Raftis III wrote: > > also, check out the allpass mode in biquad/filtercoeff, and make sure you add it to the original signal to get phasing, that can give nice phase cancellations similar to odd tape phasing. Also Phaseshift~ works well for this, again make sure you add to the original signal for cancellations to occur. > > -- > -=ili!ili=- www.Axiom-Crux.net -=ili!ili=- >
    • May 22 2008 | 11:46 pm
      or build one ourself?
    • Oct 09 2013 | 6:45 am
      @ABENSON Your patch sounds awesome! Thank you for sharing!