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how can I get a continuous sound with "groove~"?

after, i have set the start and the end of the loop, i would like to hear a continuous sound without hearing the beginning and end of the loop.

hy everyone
how can I get a continuous sound with "groove~"?
after, i have set the start and the end of the loop, i would like to hear a continuous sound without hearing the beginning and end of the loop.
how can I do
please help me!!!!!
thank's


a-continuous-sound

do you mean you want the loop to continue repeating?

try sending if the messages (loop1) and (startloop), and you can also check the [grooveduck] object which removes clicking when looping.

hy laonikoss thank you very much for your answer but i don't understand I did not understand very well what you want to say!!

hy laonikoss thank you very much for your answer but i don't understand I did not understand very well what you want to say!!
you can explain me better?
thank's


this might be very helpful: go to Help -> MSP Tutorials -> MSP Tutorial 14: Playback with loops

already done!!!!
and I have not found an answer!!!!


are you talking about granular and pfft sound "freezing"?

I had guessed OP wanted sample-tail looping a la AKAI. Didn't make we wanna contribute though :)

I'm talking about taking a start and end of loop in a groove~ (a note) and obtain a continuous sound,(the center of the note) without that they ear the start and end of the loop!

I think that this is the work of loopinterp but the loopinterp, to me, does not work!!

I'm talking about taking a start and end of loop in a groove~  (a note) and obtain a continuous sound,(the center of the note)  without that they ear the start and end of the loop!
I think that this is the work of loopinterp but the loopinterp, to me, does not work!!

it sounds like you are describing a "freeze" function rather than "loop interpolation" - which are related but raise different questions. First off, look at the helpfile for the [grooveduck] object referred to above. If this does not do what you want, then you are probably looking for a freezing or granular solution.

You're probably aware that in looping we skip from the end of a sample-buffer selection back to the start of the selection. Where the samples differ there will be discontinuity clicks. With longer loops (say >100ms) you will *always* hear the point of interpolation, unless you do some overlapping:

http://music.arts.uci.edu/dobrian/DAFX99-Dobrian.htm

in much the same way you are overlapping posts on the same subject - there will be an offset delay between copies of replies to each ;p

Granular playback/synthesis (there is a distinction NB) uses much smaller loop sizes (c. 5 ~ 50ms) and multiple copies/overlapping. If you are (like me) a relative newcomer to MaxMSP, then this is not trivial to achieve - it will take a bit of reading and practice. There are however many many examples of excellent granulators out there: Robert Henke, Timo Rozendal's bloody excellent grainstretch~ external, SugarSynth, Nathan Wolek, N. Sakonda. . . . and Max ships with its own usable granular engine (look in the /examples folder).

Secondly, as previously stated above, you could try pfft-freezing, which can sound very sexy indeed; as a semi-n00b I only know of one:

https://cycling74.com/tools/live-spectral-processing-patches-for-expo-74-nyc-2011/

though there are no doubt many more. I could be wrong but has Sam Tarakajian (aka dude837) ventured into the pfft-freeze realm recently? Anyone?

Hi
it sounds like you are describing a "freeze" function rather than "loop interpolation" - which are related but raise different questions. First off, look at the helpfile for the [grooveduck] object referred to above. If this does not do what you want, then you are probably looking for a freezing or granular solution.

yes maybe you need me is a freezing so now now I'll try to do so!!!

ok thank's!!
yes maybe you need me is a freezing so now now I'll try to do so!!!
thank's

spectacular the freezing is exactly what he did for me!!

thnk you very much n00b_meister, thank's Teb geronimo and thank's laonikoss!!!!

spectacular the freezing is exactly what he did for me!!
thnk you very much n00b_meister, thank's Teb geronimo and thank's laonikoss!!!!
thank's for yours help!!!

H.S., if you got this to work I'd love to see any of it. I'm trying to do something very similar; try to loop a sustained/continuos sound without the "clip" groove~ gives at the beginning of the sample. I'm checking out Chris Dobrian's paper (I actually studied w/ him a few years ago;) but the other example Brendan share seems to not being there anymore.