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my big thing is i would like to get the text out as 

text(message).. but can't figure out how..

This sort of access to the text track is not supported.

Javascript file access might be one way to get access 

to this data, but you'll need to know how the data is

So is this still the case? Is there still no way to get access to the content of a quicktime text track -- as text?

If there is (via javascript, as Joshua mentioned)... how would one go about getting access to it? Is there some undocumented message like gettrackcontents or gettrack[n].text?

If there still isn't any way to do it, I would like to put in a formal request for it. It would just be incredibly useful to be able to annotate quicktime clips (there are simple tools for this like Macaw - 

 and then to be able to use those annotations as a database to access different parts of the clip.

As far as knowing how the data is formatted, here's the description from Apple's QuickTime File Format document:

"The format of the text data is a 16-bit length word followed by the actual text. The length word specifies the number of bytes of text, not including the length word itself. Following the text, there may be one or more atoms containing additional information for drawing and searching the text."

http://developer.apple.com/reference/QuickTime/idxFileFormatSpecification-date.html

And as far as what the text actually looks like, there's Apple's QuickTime text tutorial

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/texttracks.html

   my big thing is i would like to get the text out as 
   text(message).. but can't figure out how..

      This sort of access to the text track is not supported.

      Javascript file access might be one way to get access 
      to this data, but you'll need to know how the data is
      formatted.

So is this still the case? Is there still no way to get access to the content of a quicktime text track -- as text? 

If there still isn't any way to do it, I would like to put in a formal request for it. It would just be incredibly useful to be able to annotate quicktime clips (there are simple tools for this like Macaw  - http://www.whitanderson.com/macaw), and then to be able to use those annotations as a database to access different parts of the clip.

access-to-text-track-in-jit-qt-movie

This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority 

list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.

Am 26.10.2006 um 03:00 schrieb Perry Hoberman:

> So is this still the case? Is there still no way to get access to 

> the content of a quicktime text track -- as text?

This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority  
list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.

> So is this still the case? Is there still no way to get access to  
> the content of a quicktime text track -- as text?


If you could sneak in the ability to get marker information that 

would be amazing as well. Ive got a few good ideas for using markers, 

and would love to keep it all in the QT file.

On Oct 26, 2006, at 2:09 AM, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

> This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority 

> list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.

> Am 26.10.2006 um 03:00 schrieb Perry Hoberman:

>> So is this still the case? Is there still no way to get access to 

>> the content of a quicktime text track -- as text?

If you could sneak in the ability to get marker information that  
would be amazing as well. Ive got a few good ideas for using markers,  
and would love to keep it all in the QT file.

> This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority  
> list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.
>
> jb
>
> Am 26.10.2006 um 03:00 schrieb Perry Hoberman:
>
>> So is this still the case? Is there still no way to get access to  
>> the content of a quicktime text track -- as text?
>


Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 08:09

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At the risk of sounding impatient: is this still the case? A way to get text from a quicktime movie would be great. At the moment I save a directory together with my movie file that contains text files with all kinds of metadata.

Would it be a workaround to copy the text track of a movie to a new qt.movie, save it to disk and open that file with coll?

Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 08:09
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> This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority  
> list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.
>

This is still the case, but you're just going to have to wait for it 

to get implemented. For now, you could export the track as text and 

use it in coll. Getting it back into jit.qt.movie would be a little 

tricky - you'd have to use applescript or something to convert the 

text file on disk to a QuickTime movie and then copy it to the 

existing movie using the track editing commands. Doable, but 

Am 06.12.2006 um 16:35 schrieb Mattijs Kneppers:

> Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 08:09

> ----------------------------------------------------

>> This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority

>> list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.

> At the risk of sounding impatient: is this still the case? A way to 

> get text from a quicktime movie would be great. At the moment I 

> save a directory together with my movie file that contains text 

> Would it be a workaround to copy the text track of a movie to a new 

> qt.movie, save it to disk and open that file with coll?

This is still the case, but you're just going to have to wait for it  
to get implemented. For now, you could export the track as text and  
use it in coll. Getting it back into jit.qt.movie would be a little  
tricky - you'd have to use applescript or something to convert the  
text file on disk to a QuickTime movie and then copy it to the  
existing movie using the track editing commands. Doable, but  
certainly not fun.

>
> Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 08:09
> ----------------------------------------------------
>> This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority
>> list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.
>>
>
> At the risk of sounding impatient: is this still the case? A way to  
> get text from a quicktime movie would be great. At the moment I  
> save a directory together with my movie file that contains text  
> files with all kinds of metadata.
>
> Would it be a workaround to copy the text track of a movie to a new  
> qt.movie, save it to disk and open that file with coll?
>
> Mattijs


Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Wed, 06 December 2006 17:15

> This is still the case, but you're just going to have to wait for it 

> to get implemented. For now, you could export the track as text and 

> use it in coll. Getting it back into jit.qt.movie would be a little 

> tricky - you'd have to use applescript or something to convert the 

> text file on disk to a QuickTime movie and then copy it to the 

> existing movie using the track editing commands. Doable, but 

Ok, that's clear. To currently get a text file back into a movie shouldn't have to be so much trouble though. I can simply copy a text file to a new track in qt.movie and it recognizes it as text track.

Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Wed, 06 December 2006 17:15
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> This is still the case, but you're just going to have to wait for it  
> to get implemented. For now, you could export the track as text and  
> use it in coll. Getting it back into jit.qt.movie would be a little  
> tricky - you'd have to use applescript or something to convert the  
> text file on disk to a QuickTime movie and then copy it to the  
> existing movie using the track editing commands. Doable, but  
> certainly not fun.

Ok, that's clear. To currently get a text file back into a movie shouldn't have to be so much trouble though. I can simply copy a text file to a new track in qt.movie and it recognizes it as text track. 

as long as we're doing feature requests, it sure would be nice to get 

On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

> This is still the case, but you're just going to have to wait for 

> it to get implemented. For now, you could export the track as text 

> and use it in coll. Getting it back into jit.qt.movie would be a 

> little tricky - you'd have to use applescript or something to 

> convert the text file on disk to a QuickTime movie and then copy it 

> to the existing movie using the track editing commands. Doable, but 

> Am 06.12.2006 um 16:35 schrieb Mattijs Kneppers:

>> Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 08:09

>> ----------------------------------------------------

>>> This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority

>>> list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.

>> At the risk of sounding impatient: is this still the case? A way 

>> to get text from a quicktime movie would be great. At the moment I 

>> save a directory together with my movie file that contains text 

>> Would it be a workaround to copy the text track of a movie to a 

>> new qt.movie, save it to disk and open that file with coll?

as long as we're doing feature requests, it sure would be nice to get  
access to quicktime midi tracks... ;)

> This is still the case, but you're just going to have to wait for  
> it to get implemented. For now, you could export the track as text  
> and use it in coll. Getting it back into jit.qt.movie would be a  
> little tricky - you'd have to use applescript or something to  
> convert the text file on disk to a QuickTime movie and then copy it  
> to the existing movie using the track editing commands. Doable, but  
> certainly not fun.
>
> jb
>
> Am 06.12.2006 um 16:35 schrieb Mattijs Kneppers:
>
>>
>> Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Thu, 26 October 2006 08:09
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>> This is still the case. It's not just made it to the high-priority
>>> list yet, but I'll try to sneak it in at some point.
>>>
>>
>> At the risk of sounding impatient: is this still the case? A way  
>> to get text from a quicktime movie would be great. At the moment I  
>> save a directory together with my movie file that contains text  
>> files with all kinds of metadata.
>>
>> Would it be a workaround to copy the text track of a movie to a  
>> new qt.movie, save it to disk and open that file with coll?
>>
>> Mattijs
>


Thank you for your patience and interest. They are all on "the list". 

Am 06.12.2006 um 17:43 schrieb joshua goldberg:

> as long as we're doing feature requests, it sure would be nice to 

> get access to quicktime midi tracks... ;)

Thank you for your patience and interest. They are all on "the list".  
Yes, that other thing, too.

> as long as we're doing feature requests, it sure would be nice to  
> get access to quicktime midi tracks... ;)


how about jit.baby.care? that would be *peachy*.

On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Jeremy Bernstein wrote:

> Thank you for your patience and interest. They are all on "the 

> Am 06.12.2006 um 17:43 schrieb joshua goldberg:

>> as long as we're doing feature requests, it sure would be nice to 

>> get access to quicktime midi tracks... ;)

how about jit.baby.care?  that would be *peachy*.

> Thank you for your patience and interest. They are all on "the  
> list". Yes, that other thing, too.
>
> jb
>
> Am 06.12.2006 um 17:43 schrieb joshua goldberg:
>
>> as long as we're doing feature requests, it sure would be nice to  
>> get access to quicktime midi tracks... ;)
>
>


Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Wed, 06 December 2006 17:50

> Thank you for your patience and interest. They are all on "the list". 

How much posts until one gets a classified email with the url of "the list"? ;)

No, honestly, I understand there's not much future in people spamming you to change a priority. Good to know that you're monitoring all feature requests so closely.

Quote: Jeremy Bernstein wrote on Wed, 06 December 2006 17:50
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> Thank you for your patience and interest. They are all on "the list".  
> Yes, that other thing, too.
>
> jb

I think it might be possible also to create new video track, lossless, with 

text stored as char matrix. This track should be disabled usually, but could 

be 'extracted' by disabling normal video track and enabling one with the 

text matrix, routing this matrix appropriately later in the patch, and 

I once stored text data in quicktime movie, but accidentally I compressed it 

with PhotoJPEG... It got out similar, but it was never the same text again, 

I think it might be possible also to create new video track, lossless, with 
text stored as char matrix. This track should be disabled usually, but could 
be 'extracted' by disabling normal video track and enabling one with the 
text matrix, routing this matrix appropriately later in the patch, and 
disabling it afterwards...

I once stored text data in quicktime movie, but accidentally I compressed it 
with PhotoJPEG... It got out similar, but it was never the same text again, 
Fregoli syndrome again...

> I think it might be possible also to create new video track, 

> lossless, with text stored as char matrix. This track should be 

> disabled usually, but could be 'extracted' by disabling normal 

> video track and enabling one with the text matrix, routing this 

> matrix appropriately later in the patch, and disabling it 

> I once stored text data in quicktime movie, but accidentally I 

> compressed it with PhotoJPEG... It got out similar, but it was 

> never the same text again, Fregoli syndrome again...

> Hello all,
>
> I think it might be possible also to create new video track,  
> lossless, with text stored as char matrix. This track should be  
> disabled usually, but could be 'extracted' by disabling normal  
> video track and enabling one with the text matrix, routing this  
> matrix appropriately later in the patch, and disabling it  
> afterwards...
>
> I once stored text data in quicktime movie, but accidentally I  
> compressed it with PhotoJPEG... It got out similar, but it was  
> never the same text again, Fregoli syndrome again...
>
> hth,
> nesa
>
>


access to text track in jit.qt.movie