DonK

Is there any chance of printed documentation? I would definitely pay extra for printed manuals. Has the user base grown enough to make this a possibility for 5?

Is there any chance of printed documentation?  I would definitely pay extra for printed manuals.  Has the user base grown enough to make this a possibility for 5?


any-chance-for-printed-docs

The documentation for 5 is entirely integrated. When you

see it and have a chance to start working with 5, it'll 

become pretty obvious why things are as they are.

The documentation for 5 is entirely integrated. When you
see it and have a chance to start working with 5, it'll 
become pretty obvious why things are as they are.


Thanks Gregory. I'm not griping about the digital documentation at all. I love the help files, copy & paste are my best friends. The pdfs are nice to have without lugging around books with my notebook. But sometimes it's nice to flip through pages, and have something catch your eye when you're away from the computer.

I learn a lot of things and get inspiration in the bathroom many times. haha.

Thanks Gregory.  I'm not griping about the digital documentation at all.  I love the help files, copy & paste are my best friends.  The pdfs are nice to have without lugging around books with my notebook.  But sometimes it's nice to flip through pages, and have something catch your eye when you're away from the computer.  

I learn a lot of things and get inspiration in the bathroom many times.  haha.


> But sometimes it's nice to flip through pages, and have something 

> catch your eye when you're away from the computer.

You're perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that 

came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I 

On 20 Apr 2008, at 05:27, Don K wrote:
> But sometimes it's nice to flip through pages, and have something  
> catch your eye when you're away from the computer.

You're perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that  
came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I  
must still have mine somewhere.

Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
www.cassiel.com
www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
www.last.fm/music/cassiel
www.reverbnation.com/cassiel
www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel
www.loadbang.net


I still have my huge three ring binder as well as my perfect-bound 

paperback manual -- both issued by Opcode...

and I still wear my [loadbang] T-shirt proudly -- although it is 

On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:58 AM, Nick Rothwell wrote:

>> But sometimes it's nice to flip through pages, and have something 

>> catch your eye when you're away from the computer.

> You're perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that 

> came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. 

I still have my huge three ring binder as well as my perfect-bound  
paperback manual -- both issued by Opcode...
and I still wear my [loadbang] T-shirt proudly -- although it is  
getting a tad thread-bare
would love to see some new Max T's

>
> On 20 Apr 2008, at 05:27, Don K wrote:
>> But sometimes it's nice to flip through pages, and have something  
>> catch your eye when you're away from the computer.
>
> You're perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that  
> came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous.  
> I must still have mine somewhere.
>
> 	-- N.
>
>
> Nick Rothwell / Cassiel.com Limited
> www.cassiel.com
> www.myspace.com/cassieldotcom
> www.last.fm/music/cassiel
> www.reverbnation.com/cassiel
> www.linkedin.com/in/cassiel
> www.loadbang.net
>


The Logic/Notator binder was bigger, I think...

I still like hard copy manuals. I like to read them on the couch, in 

bed, on the toilet. Many a software gem was discovered in this way. 

But hey, I'm pushing 50. The weird ways of the old...

Op 20-apr-2008, om 13:58 heeft Nick Rothwell het volgende geschreven:

I still like hard copy manuals. I like to read them on the couch, in  
bed, on the toilet. Many a software gem was discovered in this way.  
But hey, I'm pushing 50. The weird ways of the old...

Reading on the toilet is an essential part of learning. I have a book on

knots and one on British trees in our downstairs bog, and I can now tie a

bowline and a true lovers' knot, and tell a hornbeam from a wild service

My Max 3.x manual has now graduated to a shelf in the studio, but it

certainly did it's time in the 'smallest room'. Somehow a laptop just

wouldn't be the same (and you'd burn your legs with a Ti book anyway) ;-)

Reading on the toilet is an essential part of learning. I have a book on
knots and one on British trees in our downstairs bog, and I can now tie a
bowline and a true lovers' knot, and tell a hornbeam from a wild service
tree.
 My Max 3.x manual has now graduated to a shelf in the studio, but it
certainly did it's time in the 'smallest room'. Somehow a laptop just
wouldn't be the same (and you'd burn your legs with a Ti book anyway) ;-)
Cheers
Roger

Usually there are print/copy shops where you could hand out a pdf and 

get a printed flippable printout for less than a officially printed copy 

would cost. Its called "print-on-demand"...

> You're perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that came 

> with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I must 

Yes, I have that also still, I should put it on ebay, need space...

Anybody who wants it should shout loud winking with some cash... ;-)

Nick Rothwell schrieb:
>> But sometimes it's nice to flip through pages, and have something 
>> catch your eye when you're away from the computer.

Usually there are print/copy shops where you could hand out a pdf and 
get a printed flippable printout for less than a officially printed copy 
would cost. Its called "print-on-demand"...

> You're perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that came 
> with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I must 
> still have mine somewhere.

Yes, I have that also still, I should put it on ebay, need space...
I also have the Max 3 Manual around...
Anybody who wants it should shout loud winking with some cash... ;-)

-- 
Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
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On 20 avr. 08, at 21:13, Roger Carruthers wrote:

> Reading on the toilet is an essential part of learning.

Having a laptop, improved my learning process ;-)

On Apr 20, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Emmanuel Jourdan wrote:

> Having a laptop, improved my learning process ;-)

On Apr 20, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Emmanuel Jourdan wrote:
> Having a laptop, improved my learning process ;-)

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

On 20 avr. 08, at 21:52, Chris Muir wrote:

Everything is fine. Thanks for your concern;-)

Quote: nick rothwell / cassiel wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 04:58

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> came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I 

Well, not all that young, just a newborn babe in the max world, just starting to walk, grab external objects, and know just enough to do damage. I have my own version of the binder manuals that I printed, and used software on the old SGI machines that either came with an encyclopedia set of manuals, or a binder w/ the one tech support guy's phone number.

I'll have to look into print on demand, but I hope they can actually do a binding on them and print on both sides. 3 ring binders can get pretty bulky after a point.

Quote: nick rothwell / cassiel wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 04:58
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>
> You're perhaps too young to remember the printed documentation that  
> came with Max 2.0. It was a black ring binder and it was enormous. I  
> must still have mine somewhere.
>

Well, not all that young, just a newborn babe in the max world, just starting to walk, grab external objects, and know just enough to do damage.  I have my own version of the binder manuals that I printed, and used software on the old SGI machines that either came with an encyclopedia set of manuals, or a binder w/ the one tech support guy's phone number.  

I'll have to look into print on demand, but I hope they can actually do a binding on them and print on both sides.  3 ring binders can get pretty bulky after a point.


with rounded corners please, maybe a loadmess (what a mess) to 

Kim Cascone schrieb:
> would love to see some new Max T's

with rounded corners please, maybe a loadmess (what a mess) to 
distinguish from the Pd folks...

that's a great idea! [loadmess] has such wonderful imaginative 

On Apr 20, 2008, at 9:59 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> with rounded corners please, maybe a loadmess (what a mess) to 

that's a great idea! [loadmess] has such wonderful imaginative  
connotations! ;)

> Kim Cascone schrieb:
>> would love to see some new Max T's
>
> with rounded corners please, maybe a loadmess (what a mess) to  
> distinguish from the Pd folks...
>
> Stefan
>
> -- 
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
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Any Chance for Printed Docs?