Gewalter Benjamin

Not trying to stir up any trouble, but is anyone else curious about Balkan.OS?

Does anyone know what it is going to be?


balkan-os-2

http://racecarproductions.com/artists/djholva.htm

 doesnt exist. that would be typical for HER (NATO girl) again. i think i am a fan.

http://racecarproductions.com/artists/djholva.htm doesnt exist. that would be typical for HER (NATO girl) again. i think i am a fan.
jrp


every additional day that distances this community from NN's garbage 

On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:40 PM, jayrope wrote:

> that would be tyoical for HER again. i think i am a fan.

every additional day that distances this community from NN's garbage  
makes the world a better place.

>
> http://racecarproductions.com/artists/djholva.htm doesnt exist.  
> that would be tyoical for HER again. i think i am a fan.
> jrp
> --
> ---
> fiction-induced heat
> today's mood: musiciotic.


Your world. Joshua, i respect your opinion, please respect mine. 

Your world. Joshua, i respect your opinion, please respect mine. 
jrp


http://web.mac.com/wugmump/iWeb/josh-dot-mac/Blog/Blog.html

 can't be found? Trouble on your site, just letting you know.

Besides that, did you notice that http://web.mac.com/wugmump/iWeb/josh-dot-mac/Blog/Blog.html can't be found? Trouble on your site, just letting you know. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netochka_Nezvanova

On Jan 8, 2009, at 1:42 AM, f.e wrote:
> Just for my knowledge, what is NN ?

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl

-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netochka_Nezvanova

_____________________________
Patrick Delges

Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl
http://www.crfmw.be/max


Her actual name is Rebecca Wilson and she comes from Wellington in New Zealand. She studied music there at Victoria University under John Young. I worked with her on a gig once last century sometime, and found her to be a control freak, paranoid and a bore. As far as I can tell she co-opts other people to do work for her, with the hope of gaining credit for it herself, and attempts to build a wave of mystique through her pseudonym in the hope of surfing it to advance her own (foundationless) standing in the ea community.

NN==netochka neznorova==rw
Her actual name is Rebecca Wilson and she comes from Wellington in New Zealand. She studied music there at Victoria University under John Young. I worked with her on a gig once last century sometime, and found her to be a control freak, paranoid and a bore. As far as I can tell she co-opts other people to do work for her, with the hope of gaining credit for it herself, and attempts to build a wave of mystique through her pseudonym in the hope of surfing it to advance her own (foundationless) standing in the ea community.
T


unfortunately yes, I did. Or maybe more accurately got used by her.

http://server.ima.or.at/~imaweb/data/media/video/imafiction02.mov

Terry, is this her?
http://server.ima.or.at/~imaweb/data/media/video/imafiction02.mov
This movie is indeed ridiculous...

Ugh. "I constantly reinvent myself". There should be a $500 fine 

On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:03 PM, jayrope wrote:

Ugh. "I constantly reinvent myself". There should be a $500 fine  
anytime someone says that.

>
> Terry, her?
> http://server.ima.or.at/~imaweb/data/media/video/imafiction02.mov
> This movie is indeed ridiculous...
>
> jrp
> --
> ---
> fiction-induced heat
> today's mood: musiciotic.
>

Thank you for the invitation: I constantly reinvent myself. Where can i pay the fee?

One very bright video (about Balkan.OS) is this one here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09hAsrCtl8E

Thank you for the invitation: I constantly reinvent myself. Where can i pay the fee?
One very bright video (about Balkan.OS) is this one here:

I know this is getting way OT, but can anyone point to any concrete evidence

The reason I ask, is that I'm currently involved in a theatre project

that's loosely based around the NN mythology (go ahead an spit, if you

want), and the script writer is somewhat hung-up on issues of copyright.

My belief is that whoever the hell NN was/is, he/she/it/they isn't around

any more, and even if she/they is/are, it's highly unlikely that they're

going to turn up and slap a writ on us for quoting a few lines of her

But if anyone has anything concrete that suggests that 'person X is NN',

then I'd like to know, so we can 'mail X and ask permission!

FWIW, I was around on this list when NN was posting, and found her

contributions 'interesting', if mildly annoying at times.

But then I never shelled out for Nato, was never personally abused by her

etc. etc., and I do understand why her name raises hackles here,

PS. Apart from being someone who doesn't turn up to give presentations, who

P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem articulate enough to

On 08/01/2009 10:13, "Terry McDermott" wrote:

> Her actual name is Rebecca Wilson and she comes from Wellington in New

> Zealand. She studied music there at Victoria University under John Young. I

> worked with her on a gig once last century sometime, and found her to be a

> control freak, paranoid and a bore. As far as I can tell she co-opts other

> people to do work for her, with the hope of gaining credit for it herself, and

> attempts to build a wave of mystique through her pseudonym in the hope of

> surfing it to advance her own (foundationless) standing in the ea community.

I know this is getting way OT, but can anyone point to any concrete evidence
that these are one and the same person?
 The reason I ask, is that I'm currently involved in a theatre project
that's loosely based around the NN mythology  (go ahead an spit, if you
want), and the script writer is somewhat hung-up on issues of copyright.
 My belief is that whoever the hell NN was/is, he/she/it/they isn't around
any more, and even if she/they is/are, it's highly unlikely that they're
going to turn up and slap a writ on us for quoting a few lines of her
'poetry'.
 But if anyone has anything concrete that suggests that 'person X is NN',
then I'd like to know, so we can 'mail X and ask permission!
 FWIW, I was around on this list when NN was posting, and found her
contributions 'interesting', if mildly annoying at times.
 But then I never shelled out for Nato, was never personally abused by her
etc. etc., and I do understand why her name raises hackles here,
Cheers
Roger

PS. Apart from being someone who doesn't turn up to give presentations, who
is Gheorghe Dan ?

P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem articulate enough to
be a contender for NN.

On 08/01/2009 10:13, "Terry McDermott"  wrote:

>
> NN==netochka neznorova==rw
> Her actual name is Rebecca Wilson and she comes from Wellington in New
> Zealand. She studied music there at Victoria University under John Young. I
> worked with her on a gig once last century sometime, and found her to be a
> control freak, paranoid and a bore. As far as I can tell she co-opts other
> people to do work for her, with the hope of gaining credit for it herself, and
> attempts to build a wave of mystique through her pseudonym in the hope of
> surfing it to advance her own (foundationless) standing in the ea community.
> T

Agreed. "I constantly create a Body without Organs" would have been much better.

Quote: Synthesizer Patel wrote on Thu, 08 January 2009 13:13

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> Ugh. "I constantly reinvent myself". There should be a $500 fine 

> On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:03 PM, jayrope wrote:

Quote: Synthesizer Patel wrote on Thu, 08 January 2009 13:13
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> Ugh. "I constantly reinvent myself". There should be a $500 fine  
> anytime someone says that.
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:03 PM, jayrope wrote:
>
> >
> > Terry, her?
> > http://server.ima.or.at/~imaweb/data/media/video/imafiction02.mov
> > This movie is indeed ridiculous...
> >
> > jrp
> > --
> > ---
> > fiction-induced heat
> > today's mood: musiciotic.
> >
>
>
>
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 is for sale now. I read through numerous rather media scientist texts today to shed some light onto NN myself, i believe "Nameless Nobody" says it all already, and this message should, if only describing the parttakers of this nicely mysterious enterprise, be taken literally.

i found some of NN's early postings under the name "antiorp" in some old mail archives from OS 9 times. Fascinating, as back then.

i cant hide a certain respect for real persona hiding constantly ehind their art, instead of making an ego display out of this, which would be just normal.

Roger, it may help to know, that http://www.m9ndfukc.org/ is for sale now. I read through numerous rather media scientist texts today to shed some light onto NN myself, i believe "Nameless Nobody" says it all already, and this message should, if only describing the parttakers of this nicely mysterious enterprise, be taken literally.

i found some of NN's early postings under the name "antiorp" in some old mail archives from OS 9 times. Fascinating, as back then. 

> P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem 

> articulate enough to be a contender for NN.

Agreed. She appears to be a victim, if of herself.

> P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem 
> articulate enough to be a contender for NN.

At first I agreed with this point, but then I realized that I'm probably just disappointed to find that someone who has been built up so much over time is really just another internet "post-whore".

Quote: roger.carruthers wrote on Thu, 08 January 2009 13:38

> P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem articulate enough to

> P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem articulate enough to
> be a contender for NN.


Not that I know much about NN (kind of enjoyed her style and at times even

content), but bear in mind that some individuals can be quite eloquent in

writing while entirely inept when it comes to actual presentation in front

> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]

> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:51 PM

> > P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem

> > articulate enough to be a contender for NN.

> Agreed. She appears to be a victim, if of herself.

Not that I know much about NN (kind of enjoyed her style and at times even
content), but bear in mind that some individuals can be quite eloquent in
writing while entirely inept when it comes to actual presentation in front
of people...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com [mailto:maxmsp-bounces@cycling74.com]
> On Behalf Of jayrope
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:51 PM
> Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Re: Balkan.OS
>
>
> > P2S. From that video clip, Rebecca Wilson doesn't seem
> > articulate enough to be a contender for NN.
>
> Agreed. She appears to be a victim, if of herself.
>
> jrp
> --
> ---
> fiction-induced heat
> today's mood: musiciotic.


Yes it is her; oh dear, it's obviously a very heavily and rather cruelly edited video, but if you give someone enough rope sometimes they might just hang themselves.

Quote: jayrope wrote on Fri, 09 January 2009 07:03

Quote: jayrope wrote on Fri, 09 January 2009 07:03
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> Terry, is this her?
> http://server.ima.or.at/~imaweb/data/media/video/imafiction02.mov
> This movie is indeed ridiculous...
>
> jrp
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