Guillaume Evrard

i'm new in trying to build application from max.

i tried the simple way with a simple patch (that is to say, file->build as .app), with no extra scripting commands.

but when i try to launch my app, nothing happens...

i'm new in trying to build application from max.
i tried the simple way with a simple patch (that is to say, file->build as .app), with no extra scripting commands.
but when i try to launch my app, nothing happens...

building-application-that-doesnt-run

i am with osx 10.4, max/msp 4.6.3, there is no strange character in my filename, i'm on the startup disk...

On 15 nov. 07, at 11:33, guillaume wrote:

> i am with osx 10.4, max/msp 4.6.3, there is no strange character in 

> my filename, i'm on the startup disk...

> i am with osx 10.4, max/msp 4.6.3, there is no strange character in  
> my filename, i'm on the startup disk...

but i'v just seen my runtime has been erased (wtf?!) and max doesn't tell me anything...

but i'v just seen my runtime has been erased (wtf?!) and max doesn't tell me anything...
weird.


ok that's fixed for the runtime (don't know what happened)

so i get no error message when building, the max console says the building was ok.

i try including my folders, but no more fun...

ok that's fixed for the runtime (don't know what happened)
so i get no error message when building, the max console says the building was ok.
but my application doesn't start.
did i miss something?
i try including my folders, but no more fun...

On 15 nov. 07, at 12:48, guillaume wrote:

> ok that's fixed for the runtime (don't know what happened)

> so i get no error message when building, the max console says the 

> i try including my folders, but no more fun...

Can you describe more precisely what you're doing? What are the path 

> ok that's fixed for the runtime (don't know what happened)
> so i get no error message when building, the max console says the  
> building was ok.
> but my application doesn't start.
> did i miss something?
> i try including my folders, but no more fun...

Can you describe more precisely what you're doing? What are the path  
of the standalone?

- then i press the "build" button and export.

- i copy my objects into the package content. (since they seem not to be present)

when i launch my app, runtime is loading, then crashing...with always the same bug report (cpu_capabilities issue).

well, when my patch is finished, i do :
- file ->build...
- then i press the "build" button and export.
- i copy my objects into the package content. (since they seem not to be present)
when i launch my app, runtime is loading, then crashing...with always the same bug report (cpu_capabilities issue).
i'm on a mac intel.

On 15 nov. 07, at 15:52, guillaume wrote:

> well, when my patch is finished, i do :

> - then i press the "build" button and export.

> - i copy my objects into the package content. (since they seem not 

> when i launch my app, runtime is loading, then crashing...with 

> always the same bug report (cpu_capabilities issue).

What happen if you make a standalone from a simple patch? like 

> well, when my patch is finished, i do :
> - file ->build...
> - then i press the "build" button and export.
> - i copy my objects into the package content. (since they seem not  
> to be present)
> when i launch my app, runtime is loading, then crashing...with  
> always the same bug report (cpu_capabilities issue).
> i'm on a mac intel.

What happen if you make a standalone from a simple patch? like  
makenote help file or whatever.

but mine is still crashing, i tried to remove the loadbang but it doesn't change anything.

it's not a complex patch,the only externals i use are udpsend and one of my abtsractions. (and some basic max objects).

it works with simple patches.
but mine is still crashing, i tried to remove the loadbang but it doesn't change anything.
it's not a complex patch,the only externals i use are udpsend and one of my abtsractions. (and some basic max objects).

it seems the problem comes from udpsend... all works well when i just delete it...

On 15 nov. 07, at 16:23, guillaume wrote:

> it seems the problem comes from udpsend... all works well when i 

Why do you it to the package? it's a standard object since 4.6.x.

> it seems the problem comes from udpsend... all works well when i  
> just delete it...

i mean, deleting the udpsend object into my patch !

> it seems the problem comes from udpsend... all works well when i just

I had a similar problem with iana~ from ircam. It will crash standalones 

reliably. It will also crash if I use it within a collective. It won't 

crash if used with the normal patch (all subpatchers seperate). As 

nobody wanted to dive deeper, and I didn't really needed it as 

standalone, I'd wonder if a collective of your patch would crash Max as 

There must be something either in the collective handling or in the 3rd 

party externals or a combination of both...

guillaume schrieb:
> it seems the problem comes from udpsend... all works well when i just
> delete it...

I had a similar problem with iana~ from ircam. It will crash standalones 
reliably. It will also crash if I use it within a collective. It won't 
crash if used with the normal patch (all subpatchers seperate). As 
nobody wanted to dive deeper, and I didn't really needed it as 
standalone, I'd wonder if a collective of your patch would crash Max as 
well...

There must be something either in the collective handling or in the 3rd 
party externals or a combination of both...

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thats's strange. I've used Iana~ in a standalone application and 

On 17 Nov 2007, at 09:00, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

>> it seems the problem comes from udpsend... all works well when i just

> I had a similar problem with iana~ from ircam. It will crash 

> standalones reliably. It will also crash if I use it within a 

> collective. It won't crash if used with the normal patch (all 

> subpatchers seperate). As nobody wanted to dive deeper, and I 

> didn't really needed it as standalone, I'd wonder if a collective 

> of your patch would crash Max as well...

> There must be something either in the collective handling or in the 

> 3rd party externals or a combination of both...

thats's strange. I've used Iana~ in a standalone application and  
didn't crash.

> guillaume schrieb:
>> it seems the problem comes from udpsend... all works well when i just
>> delete it...
>
> I had a similar problem with iana~ from ircam. It will crash  
> standalones reliably. It will also crash if I use it within a  
> collective. It won't crash if used with the normal patch (all  
> subpatchers seperate). As nobody wanted to dive deeper, and I  
> didn't really needed it as standalone, I'd wonder if a collective  
> of your patch would crash Max as well...
>
> There must be something either in the collective handling or in the  
> 3rd party externals or a combination of both...
>
> Stefan
>
> -- 
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>


about my case, i reinstalled max and jitter and it seems to have solved problem.

On 17 nov. 07, at 17:36, guillaume wrote:

> about my case, i reinstalled max and jitter and it seems to have 

In case of trouble I would recommend that and repair permissions. 

I've successfully made an application with updsend, and iana~ so this 

> about my case, i reinstalled max and jitter and it seems to have  
> solved problem.

In case of trouble I would recommend that and repair permissions.  
I've successfully made an application with updsend, and iana~ so this  
is definitely not the problem.

> thats's strange. I've used Iana~ in a standalone application and didn't 

Yes, the old PPC version didn't crash. When I demanded a new UB version 

Peiman Khosravi schrieb:
> thats's strange. I've used Iana~ in a standalone application and didn't 
> crash.

Yes, the old PPC version didn't crash. When I demanded a new UB version 
it had this problem...

On 19 nov. 07, at 20:43, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> Yes, the old PPC version didn't crash. When I demanded a new UB 

With the UB version I have on my computer, I've been able to make a 

standalone which runs successfully on my MacBook Pro.

> Yes, the old PPC version didn't crash. When I demanded a new UB  
> version it had this problem...

With the UB version I have on my computer, I've been able to make a  
standalone which runs successfully on my MacBook Pro.

> With the UB version I have on my computer, I've been able to make a 

> standalone which runs successfully on my MacBook Pro.

I had the problem with creating a collective from the help file. It 

would crash "reliably" on different computers with different fresh Max 

installs. But this was more than half a year ago, it seems OS/Max 

(Just made a test, the help collective doesn't crash anymore...)

Emmanuel Jourdan schrieb:
> With the UB version I have on my computer, I've been able to make a 
> standalone which runs successfully on my MacBook Pro.

I had the problem with creating a collective from the help file. It 
would crash "reliably" on different computers with different fresh Max 
installs. But this was more than half a year ago, it seems OS/Max 
updates cured it...
(Just made a test, the help collective doesn't crash anymore...)

building application that doesn't run