rikimazza

I urgently need to compile as Universal the Bill Orcutt's shell object. Bill

kindly provided me the source code (carbon) since he doesn't have a computer

I tried using Xcode, but I got a couple of errors from the source code that

I'm not able to correct (unfortunately for me I don't have enough

Can anybody give me a hand? I can mail the code (it's just few lines) or it

Alternatively if anyone has or knows about a .mxo that is a unix shell (no

java or javascript but real universal) I will buy it since I do really need

to cross a big max patch (www.soundbuilder.net) I did last year and the

"shell" is the only 3rd party object I used...

I may give away a SoundBuilder as exchange.

I urgently need to compile as Universal the Bill Orcutt's shell object. Bill
kindly provided me the source code (carbon) since he doesn't have a computer
right now to do the job.
I tried using Xcode, but I got a couple of errors from the source code that
I'm not able to correct (unfortunately for me I don't have enough
competence).
Can anybody give me a hand? I can mail the code (it's just few lines) or it
can be downloaded at: http://publicbeta.cx/max/ (shell.zip).

Alternatively if anyone has or knows about a .mxo that is a unix shell (no
java or javascript but real universal) I will buy it since I do really need
to cross a big max patch (www.soundbuilder.net) I did last year and the
"shell" is the only 3rd party object I used...

compile-shell-external-as-ub

I believe Jeremy Bernstein has arleady taken a stab at this. I

remember there were some issues, but it might just work for you:

https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/JeremyBernstein?t=2006-08-15T23:23Z?rev=1.5

> I urgently need to compile as Universal the Bill Orcutt's shell object. Bill

> kindly provided me the source code (carbon) since he doesn't have a computer

> I tried using Xcode, but I got a couple of errors from the source code that

> I'm not able to correct (unfortunately for me I don't have enough

> Can anybody give me a hand? I can mail the code (it's just few lines) or it

> Alternatively if anyone has or knows about a .mxo that is a unix shell (no

> java or javascript but real universal) I will buy it since I do really need

> to cross a big max patch (www.soundbuilder.net) I did last year and the

> "shell" is the only 3rd party object I used...

> I may give away a SoundBuilder as exchange.

Hi Riccardo,
I believe Jeremy Bernstein has arleady taken a stab at this.  I
remember there were some issues, but it might just work for you:
https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/JeremyBernstein?t=2006-08-15T23:23Z?rev=1.5

On 8/31/06, Riccardo Mazza  wrote:
> Hello from Italy,
>
> I urgently need to compile as Universal the Bill Orcutt's shell object. Bill
> kindly provided me the source code (carbon) since he doesn't have a computer
> right now to do the job.
> I tried using Xcode, but I got a couple of errors from the source code that
> I'm not able to correct (unfortunately for me I don't have enough
> competence).
> Can anybody give me a hand? I can mail the code (it's just few lines) or it
> can be downloaded at: http://publicbeta.cx/max/ (shell.zip).
>
> Alternatively if anyone has or knows about a .mxo that is a unix shell (no
> java or javascript but real universal) I will buy it since I do really need
> to cross a big max patch (www.soundbuilder.net) I did last year and the
> "shell" is the only 3rd party object I used...
>
> I may give away a SoundBuilder as exchange.
>
> Thanks very very much.
>
> Ciao ciao
> Riccardo Mazza
>
>
>


The issues appear to manifest on _some_ Intel macs, whereby the 

output gets directed to the Console, instead of to the Max object's 

left outlet. Otherwise, the object works. Depending on what you need 

it for, this issue may be a dealbreaker. But it's just waiting for 

you to try it out. I'll check out that copy of soundbuilder, though, 

Am 01.09.2006 um 07:54 schrieb Wesley Smith:

> I believe Jeremy Bernstein has arleady taken a stab at this. I

> remember there were some issues, but it might just work for you:

https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/JeremyBernstein?

The issues appear to manifest on _some_ Intel macs, whereby the  
output gets directed to the Console, instead of to the Max object's  
left outlet. Otherwise, the object works. Depending on what you need  
it for, this issue may be a dealbreaker. But it's just waiting for  
you to try it out. I'll check out that copy of soundbuilder, though,  
if it's still on the table. ;)

> Hi Riccardo,
> I believe Jeremy Bernstein has arleady taken a stab at this.  I
> remember there were some issues, but it might just work for you:
> https://cycling74.com/twiki/bin/view/Share/JeremyBernstein? 
> t=2006-08-15T23:23Z?rev=1.5
>
> best,


after a long time i just had it again - a problem that happens rarely but (see subject) which i think started to happen with the first OSX version. once in a while when bringing max back to the front all open windows dissapear. i can still select them from the windows menu and e.g. close/save/edit/select all/copy/paste... but they stay invisible and max doesnt crash.

my experience is it only happens with many open apps and max also being open long (hours/days) and lots of app switching and apps hiding and going into/back from sleep mode . i had this more often with older versions (of max and osx) but it just happend right now with 4.5.7. on 10.3.9. on alubook 1.25ghz, 1gb ram. it also happened on my tibook back then. as i dont had this ever with any other app i suspect rather max than osx to be the problem but thats just speculation... oh and i should mention that for the first time for a long time i have a 2nd monitor connected while patching (so maybe thats why it didnt happen for long?)

and i actually can´t imagine i am the only one to whom this happens/happened

i know my description is vage but it tried to be as specific as possible...

the console! that's where the messages are! how ... useless

do you have any idea why this is happening?

> The issues appear to manifest on _some_ Intel macs, whereby the

> output gets directed to the Console, instead of to the Max object's

the console!  that's where the messages are!  how ... useless

On 9/1/06, Jeremy Bernstein  wrote:
> The issues appear to manifest on _some_ Intel macs, whereby the
> output gets directed to the Console, instead of to the Max object's
> left outlet.


Preliminary inquiries seem to indicate that it's an Apple bug, but 

we're waiting to get more information. If I learn of a workaround in 

Am 01.09.2006 um 18:45 schrieb Scott Fitzgerald:

> do you have any idea why this is happening?

Preliminary inquiries seem to indicate that it's an Apple bug, but  
we're waiting to get more information. If I learn of a workaround in  
the meantime, I'll let you know.

> do you have any idea why this is happening?


> i am totally sure it has to do with what i described but unfortunately 

> its not reproduceable. i just find it striking that it didnt happen for 

> ages and its ages since i worked with a 2nd monitor...

Very simple, they did not disapeare, but are hidden by other windows of 

I guess you still believe, that if an application is in the foreground, 

all windows will jump to the front. This is the case if you switch 

applications with the dock or the cmd-TAB key, but if you just click on 

a single window, only that window will come to the front...

This has changed since OS 9 and its very convenient, especially if you 

have millions of Finder windows open and want to drag from a single 

pure@test.at wrote:
> i am totally sure it has to do with what i described but unfortunately 
> its not reproduceable. i just find it striking that it didnt happen for 
> ages and its ages since i worked with a 2nd monitor...
>
> no one else ever had this?

Very simple, they did not disapeare, but are hidden by other windows of 
other applications.

I guess you still believe, that if an application is in the foreground, 
all windows will jump to the front. This is the case if you switch 
applications with the dock or the cmd-TAB key, but if you just click on 
a single window, only that window will come to the front...

This has changed since OS 9 and its very convenient, especially if you 
have millions of Finder windows open and want to drag from a single 
Finder window into Max...

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>> i am totally sure it has to do with what i described but unfortunately 

>> its not reproduceable. i just find it striking that it didnt happen 

>> for ages and its ages since i worked with a 2nd monitor...

> Very simple, they did not disapeare, but are hidden by other windows of 

then this could not happen: "i still have the menubar of max and can also select the patcher windows via the window menu - at least then they would have to reappear."

> I guess you still believe, that if an application is in the foreground, 

> all windows will jump to the front. This is the case if you switch 

> applications with the dock or the cmd-TAB key, but if you just click on 

> a single window, only that window will come to the front...

i dont believe the first, regulary use the 2nd and am aware of the 3rd

> This has changed since OS 9 and its very convenient, especially if you 

> have millions of Finder windows open and want to drag from a single 

i do know all this. i love shortcuts, use column view in the finder and in spite of being a mac user i even prefer to navigate with the arrow keys than mouse clickdragging ;) thats all these kinda things i almost daily explain to the not so few friends who call me with their everyday computer probs.

i can asure you its not such a trivial confusion.

sigh... so no one else backing up my experience...

Stefan Tiedje wrote:
> pure@test.at wrote:
>
>> i am totally sure it has to do with what i described but unfortunately 
>> its not reproduceable. i just find it striking that it didnt happen 
>> for ages and its ages since i worked with a 2nd monitor...
>>
>> no one else ever had this?
>
>
> Very simple, they did not disapeare, but are hidden by other windows of 
> other applications.

>
> I guess you still believe, that if an application is in the foreground, 
> all windows will jump to the front. This is the case if you switch 
> applications with the dock or the cmd-TAB key, but if you just click on 
> a single window, only that window will come to the front...

i dont believe the first, regulary use the 2nd and am aware of the 3rd
>
> This has changed since OS 9 and its very convenient, especially if you 
> have millions of Finder windows open and want to drag from a single 
> Finder window into Max...

> then this could not happen: "i still have the menubar of max and can 

> also select the patcher windows via the window menu - at least then they 

Ah, I understood the did reapear when selecting them.

If they don't I don't know. Do you have a second monitor atached?, did 

you try to recenter them with alt-select from the windows menu?

pure@test.at wrote:
> then this could not happen: "i still have the menubar of max and can 
> also select the patcher windows via the window menu - at least then they 
> would have to reappear."

Ah, I understood the did reapear when selecting them.
If they don't I don't know. Do you have a second monitor atached?, did 
you try to recenter them with alt-select from the windows menu?

>> then this could not happen: "i still have the menubar of max and can 

>> also select the patcher windows via the window menu - at least then 

> Ah, I understood the did reapear when selecting them.

Do you have a second monitor atached?, did 

> you try to recenter them with alt-select from the windows menu?

yeah i had a 2nd monitor attached for the first time for long thats why i suspect this ...erm... bug to be related to that. have to admit i didnt know the alt-select trick but i can asure you i didnt overlook the windows in a corner of my screens...

Stefan Tiedje wrote:
> pure@test.at wrote:
>
>> then this could not happen: "i still have the menubar of max and can 
>> also select the patcher windows via the window menu - at least then 
>> they would have to reappear."
>
>
> Ah, I understood the did reapear when selecting them.

Do you have a second monitor atached?, did 
> you try to recenter them with alt-select from the windows menu?

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