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for the last >10 years i have used ctrl-modifiers for keyboard commands in my Max performance patch. With Max 6.1 i am suddenly confronted with system beeps whenever i use key combinations like ctrl-q, ctrl-w, ctrl-e, and so on. The beeps are not issued through Max DSP, but are rather emitted from the system speaker or headphone output.

Is this intended behavior, and how could i get rid of it?

Hi,
for the last >10 years i have used ctrl-modifiers for keyboard commands in my Max performance patch. With Max 6.1 i am suddenly confronted with system beeps whenever i use key combinations like  ctrl-q, ctrl-w, ctrl-e, and so on. The beeps are not issued through Max DSP, but are rather emitted from the system speaker or headphone output.
Is this intended behavior, and how could i get rid of it?

ctrl-modifier-for-key

oh, i should probably say that this is on a Mac, using OS 10.5.8. Experienced with Max 6.1.5.

I have the same issue. It also happens with alt as well.

the beep makes performance difficult!! Any way to shut it off?

5 years later. Is there a solution to this?

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5 years later. Is there a solution to this?

you could go to SystemPreferences->Sound->SoundEffects and from there simply turn down "Alert Volume" to 0 before your performance(there are other things which people do differently for performance settings there as well: energy saving settings, network settings to turn off wifi or create/manage local networks, turn off bluetooth just in case there's that one annoying hacker at your performance who can gain access to your family photos or porn collection and start playing it on your laptop turning your artistic performance into their own artistic commentary, etc. 😁)

you could go to SystemPreferences->Sound->SoundEffects and from there simply turn down "Alert Volume" to 0 before your performance(there are other things which people do differently for performance settings there as well:  energy saving settings, network settings to turn off wifi or create/manage local networks, turn off bluetooth just in case there's that one annoying hacker at your performance who can gain access to your family photos or porn collection and start playing it on your laptop turning your artistic performance into their own artistic commentary, etc.  😁)


Any way to do this for a standalone application?

oh i see what you mean now, my bad, there's nothing like that built-in to Max that i know of, but if there was a solution from the Max side of things, it might be using the 'shell' object which is still in beta:

(might be possible from there to shell-script the alert volume down, not sure, but that's probably where i'd start looking) ....users of your app might not like you fussing with that, though(definitely would want script to return it to normal upon closing your app).

oh i see what you mean now, my bad, there's nothing like that built-in to Max that i know of, but if there was a solution from the Max side of things, it might be using the 'shell' object which is still in beta:
https://cycling74.com/forums/shell 
(might be possible from there to shell-script the alert volume down, not sure, but that's probably where i'd start looking) ....users of your app might not like you fussing with that, though(definitely would want script to return it to normal upon closing your app).

hope it helps :)


Inverting that to previous value is more complicated, because

would prevent it from executing script on closebang or any other

And You will need to capture last alert volume value to restore it.

You could simply set it to maximum though :

osascript -e 'set volume alert volume 100'.

or try this to capture alert volume before setting it to 100.

Disabling command q is also possible, by setting that shortcut

to something meaningless for the standalone app. 

You do that in System Preferences - Keyboard Shortcuts

than You make a "Quit" button in standalone to

restore alert volume, and short time after 

send this to shell.
Inverting that to previous value is more complicated, because
You need to disable command q , as quitting standalone this way
would prevent it from executing script on closebang or any other
auto - execute on quit script.
And You will need to capture last alert volume value to restore it.
You could simply set it to maximum though :
osascript -e 'set volume alert volume 100'.
or try this to capture alert volume before setting it to 100.


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Disabling command q is also possible, by setting that shortcut
to something meaningless for the standalone app. 
You do that in System Preferences - Keyboard Shortcuts

than You make a "Quit" button in standalone to
restore alert volume, and short time after 
; max quit   message


if You dislike using shell compile apple script

set volume alert volume 0
as for example KillAlert.app
and start it using message
;
max launchbrowser file:///Applications/KillAlert.app

(holy crap, you're amazing at this shell and scripting stuff 🙌 Thank You and Respect! ✊)

i wonder what causes this. it is not a normal bevahiour of an app.

now, ⌘ + 1 will trigger MenuItem (silently!)

now if only there would be an easy way how to run off the default shortcuts, so that custom patches can use single letters as input. :)

ctrl modifier for key