Wetterberg

The nature of these forums lends itself to only hearing about projects when people are having problems, and not the interesting, the development, the mundane.

So, what are you working on right now? I'd love to hear about it.

The nature of these forums lends itself to only hearing about projects when people are having problems, and not the interesting, the development, the mundane. 

So, what are you working on right now? I'd love to hear about it.


curious-what-are-you-working-on-these-days

a 3D sequencer (someday i'll properly share it here...)

1) #5 in my Integration project series, all patched in Max, previous iteration: 

http://dietervandoren.net/index.php?/project/integration04/

Just installed my test and practice setup in the studio.

2) a new project, Lampyridae, Arduino-based with some supporting Max patches for testing and monitoring: 

http://todaysart.nl/2014/program/matteo-marangoni-dieter-vandoren-iii-lampyridae/

Getting on with coding the behavior of the little creatures right now.

1) #5 in my Integration project series, all patched in Max, previous iteration: http://dietervandoren.net/index.php?/project/integration04/
Just installed my test and practice setup in the studio.

2) a new project, Lampyridae, Arduino-based with some supporting Max patches for testing and monitoring: http://todaysart.nl/2014/program/matteo-marangoni-dieter-vandoren-iii-lampyridae/
Getting on with coding the behavior of the little creatures right now.


@vichug aww, that sounds brilliant! Which aspects of it are in 3d? The data storage, or just the representation? Like, is it a big VR thing?

@dtr excellent. What's going to be different in Integration#5? Also, isn't setup a complete *bitch*? hehe. It would take me enough time to almost lose interest in it, if it were me :)

Oh yeah, my band and I are gearing up for a new round of concerts. Focussing on SPAT a lot, new granular things and I plan on finally abandoning Ableton Live completely in the process. (I'll still use it for production).

Right now I'm bashing my way through building a drum sample system that I really like. IDK, it seems like that sort of thing isn't as abundant in Max, for some reason - drum samplers.

@vichug aww, that sounds brilliant! Which aspects of it are in 3d? The data storage, or just the representation? Like, is it a big VR thing? 

@dtr excellent. What's going to be different in Integration#5? Also, isn't setup a complete *bitch*? hehe. It would take me enough time to almost lose interest in it, if it were me :) 

Oh yeah, my band and I are gearing up for a new round of concerts. Focussing on SPAT a lot, new granular things and I plan on finally abandoning Ableton Live completely in the process. (I'll still use it for production).
Right now I'm bashing my way through building a drum sample system that I really like. IDK, it seems like that sort of thing isn't as abundant in Max, for some reason - drum samplers.


I'm trying to modify the live input of Granulator II by Robert Henke, so it can input live audio more like a the Ableton looper: start/stop record button, variable size buffer on the fly, ability to quantize, possibly overdub feature if I can. Daunting for me, as a Max novice. What new granular things, and why abandon Ableton--it seems particularly stable for live performances.

hey Jaren. Roberts patches are amazing - have you had a good look at GrainFreeze as well? Lots of modding potential there. Anyways, I think modding existing devices is a great way to start.

We're going with Brendan McCloskey's "Granary". Sounds great, really lightweight, and a good balance of sound quality and good parameters to tweak. We were going to use mubu.granular~, but there's literally a hundred parameters or more, and we couldn't quite nail the baseline sound, if that makes sense.

Live is great still, but it gets unwieldy for me. I really don't like working with drum racks anymore. It's fiddly and annoying to me. Like, I have this huge external monitor in my home studio, but I can only use a sliver of it at the bottom to set up drum racks.

And then there's the issue of my live performance Live set eventually taking up something like 1.4 gigabytes of ram. I wasn't comfortable with the size anymore, it got slow and slightly unpredictable.

And lastly I've been wanting more flexible routing of multi-channel patches, and Live really doesn't want to play ball. I don't know if that'll change with Max7 either. It's still stereo in, stereo out, or a single midi channel in/out.

Sorry for the rant there, it's taking up a lot of time for me these days.

And lastly I've been wanting more flexible routing of multi-channel patches, and Live really doesn't want to play ball. I don't know if that'll change with Max7 either. It's still stereo in, stereo out, or a single midi channel in/out. 

Sorry for the rant there, it's taking up a lot of time for me these days.


. . . and on that note, I am still working on enhancing Granary, based on elements of the Mangle and Monolake plugins; still dabbling, I recently added grain-shape modulation, cheaper/simpler interonset modulation, and pitch-independent grain size modulation (sadly, at the expense of phase-locked overlapping grains; this fundamental issue persists), it sounds . . . okay, but not as buttery smooth as the public domain version, which is the one I still prefer. Way down the line I do plan to add live-looping/overdubbing functionality, for a degree of 'live-granulation', but not this year. Big post-doc funding application to address first.

I also plan to get back into Arduino, OSC and DIY sensor interfaces for performance patches, perhaps using hybrid physical modeling, based on the PerColate SDK/code; or maybe mass-spring models might be the way to go? Karplus-Strong has been done to death really.

Good thread, hope it runs for a while and attracts more contributors.

(Excellent thread, I will merely bump it for others rather than pollute it any further :)

I'm working on a patch that helps with 3D printing by slicing and combining different .gcode files. At the moment, most slicer programs that turn your 3D model into coordinate data (.gcode file) for your 3D printer's motors don't allow you to have parameters change half way through the print, so you can't vary things like density or wall thickness across the print. Max allowed me to do that (I don't know any programming languages) though it takes a while to process since these gcode files are essentially text files with amounts of lines in the 7 digits.

EDIT: apart from that I will soon release a "Samchillian tip tip tip cheeepeeeee" emulation in the form of a M4L device

I'm trying to modularise all the different things I've built over the years, and make a coherent set of modules for different sound design tasks. Some of these are sample based and others are synthesis and effects. BEAP was a revelation for me in how to use Max to make sounds quickly - without getting too bogged down in the lower level stuff. I want explore that idea a bit further and hopefully make some things useful to others in the process.

I've had a bit of a sabbatical from Max over the summer, so I'm revisiting a lot of my favourite patches and trying to look at them with "beginner's mind".

Don't know if it's just age, but it's surprising how much you can forget about things that you thought you knew well, so it's good to look at patches you haven't seen for a while and explore the things that are not immediately obvious.

If I can't see straight away in my own patches what something is supposed to be doing, how is anyone else going to understand it? If I can't see why something is there, then maybe it's not necessary, or should be done in a more obvious way?

(OTOH, I'm often encouraged if I can't understand something in my own patches, because it might mean I've done something clever ;) )

@brendan: Karplus-Strong definitely died a while back, yeah. Thanks for bumping, guys

@jdudeo: oh man, I'd forgotten all about the Samchillian. Seems like ages ago already.

@Mark: Yeah, BEAP had that effect on me as well. Building things in reusable form is so rewarding, I'm doing that with all sorts of sequencer-related bits now, albeit a bit more low-level than BEAP.

@roger: yeah, I often find that if I have older *uncommented* code, then I won't grok it at all, and I might as well get rid of it, sometimes. So I'm definitely commenting a lot more now than I used to.

@Wetterberg : it's more on the side of VR thing, but scenes are saved as a set of 3D elements, so maybe it registers as data storage too ?...

I am learning some ableton + max for live for the first time... Want to make some dance beats...

I am learning some ableton + max for live for the first time... Want to make some dance beats...
https://vimeo.com/109271348


@wetterberg: Integration.5 builds upon the foundation of #4. Mostly the same hardware setup but modularized software framework. Compositionally, I want to be able to freely develop a performance in much more improvized fashion. In #4 I had to pre-set the succession of 'scenes'. I was free in the timing of transitions and what I did within a scene but I couldn't decide to change the order of them on the fly, for example. Instead of a succession of scenes I want it to be 1 whole that evolves and morphs gradually rather than having clear cuts from one to the next.

Yup, setting up 's a b*tch with a system like this. But I've done it many many times so I'm trained. And I get a nerdy kick out of planning and executing advanced technical setups ;)

(We'll see if I'm so nerdy happy about it in 2 weeks. Have a big gig with it and only an afternoon for setting up...)

Yup, setting up 's a b*tch with a system like this. But I've done it many many times so I'm trained. And I get a nerdy kick out of planning and executing advanced technical setups ;) 

(We'll see if I'm so nerdy happy about it in 2 weeks. Have a big gig with it and only an afternoon for setting up...)


@Vichug: looking forward to seeing it. VR... so hot right now.

@DTR: there's a certain element of masochism involved in big rigs like that. I can't believe we're getting into spatialisation now, too. Part of the reason I use computers is so that I don't have to haul big speaker cabs around... and now I'm going full circle!

one of my latest lego buildings minecraft tunnels max patches is a modular impulse-reponse designer for modular deconvolution effect rigs (imagine a 2x3 matrix with 6 altiverbs as core).

since i want it to run on g4 computers, the file length is limited to a maximum of 125ms - but you can have feedback loops. :)

modular impulse-reponse designer for modular deconvolution effect rigs (imagine a 2×3 matrix with 6 altiverbs as core)

sounds amazeballz to the wall! i imagine something like a hurricane-designer :)

HA! GOTCHA! was waiting for your answer first ;D

(i'm working on a looper, which i've branched off into two versions, one for Rodrigo Constanzo's PartyVan app, and one for my own... an MSP external written in C, the main feature for me is clickless arbitrary-jump recording(it remembers where the record head left off and where it cuts into, then rewrites the buffer~ with appropriate fades at all those points)... Rodrigo's version will additionally have PierreAlexandre Tremblay's iPoke~ built into it for linearly-interpolated-variable-rate recording as well(mine will leave this out since i prefer to start from original pitches of recordings and capture recording sample-by-sample for best sound quality, but will therefore have a recording rate that is sometimes separate from playback)... Also has Miller Puckette's switch&ramp to tame clicks with 0 latency, linear-interpolation for playback, sample-accurate control, and other features...)

HA! GOTCHA! was waiting for your answer first ;D
(i'm working on a looper, which i've branched off into two versions, one for Rodrigo Constanzo's PartyVan app, and one for my own... an MSP external written in C, the main feature for me is clickless arbitrary-jump recording(it remembers where the record head left off and where it cuts into, then rewrites the buffer~ with appropriate fades at all those points)... Rodrigo's version will additionally have PierreAlexandre Tremblay's iPoke~ built into it for linearly-interpolated-variable-rate recording as well(mine will leave this out since i prefer to start from original pitches of recordings and capture recording sample-by-sample for best sound quality, but will therefore have a recording rate that is sometimes separate from playback)... Also has Miller Puckette's switch&ramp to tame clicks with 0 latency, linear-interpolation for playback, sample-accurate control, and other features...)


Raja, that looper has me salivating a bit, I gotta say. You'll be letting us know when you've got a preview, right?

EDIT: Just had a bit of a play around with ipoke~ - apparently degrade~ on the phasor~ is what I've been missing in my life. Who knew? It sounds so good.

currently fixing some issues on the new version of my Honegumi software, which I use for my live set

that's a screen of the old version. It is based on granulators, distorsions and looping systems

made with "Vanilla" objects, due to the fact that I love to use my own stuff during the years

and sometimes in the past I had the "surprise" of deprecated version or unstable stuff :)

http://www.franzrosati.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Honegumi_v6-785x461.png

Also fixing the VForm patch which I use to do live visuals and large scale prints,

and setting up some stuff with new electroacoustic live projects.

Last but not least trying to make it work for my personal satisfaction and "exercise"

https://cycling74.com/forums/images-to-oscilloscope-xy-mode/

currently fixing some issues on the new version of my Honegumi software, which I use for my live set
that's a screen of the old version. It is based on granulators, distorsions and looping systems
made with "Vanilla" objects, due to the fact that I love to use my own stuff during the years
and sometimes in the past I had the "surprise" of deprecated version or unstable stuff :)
http://www.franzrosati.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Honegumi_v6-785x461.png 

Also fixing the VForm patch which I use to do live visuals and large scale prints,
and setting up some stuff with new electroacoustic live projects.

Last but not least trying to make it work for my personal satisfaction and "exercise"
https://cycling74.com/forums/images-to-oscilloscope-xy-mode/


Honegumi looks stunning! Care to let me take a peek? :)

You’ll be letting us know when you’ve got a preview, right?

ya, that, or the final release will be soon enough. either way, it'll be free and open-source, announced here on the forums or something akin to that(but no windows machine here, so will have to figure that out later, too...)

for my personal taste, this is the best type of thread EVAR! Thanks for creating it, Wetterberg! great to read everyone's interests and adventures.

yeah, I'm loving this type of thread, too.

Good to hear it'll be announced soon! :) I'm really craving inspiration these days.

yeah, I'm loving this type of thread, too. 

Good to hear it'll be announced soon! :) I'm really craving inspiration these days.


I just had a great session with a band member today, using variable delay buffers and contact mics.

Here he is, rocking out to the stutter-castagnettes:

http://instagram.com/p/ugGRaQQq2x/?modal=true

Here he is, rocking out to the stutter-castagnettes:
http://instagram.com/p/ugGRaQQq2x/?modal=true


okay, although I may have posted these links before in some other context, and they're a year or two old, but DAMN that looks like fun (and quite do-able in Max/MSP/Jitter:

Woooow... a lot of good ideas, here ! And I discovered some very nice projects too. @Wetterberg, this topic is a great idea :-) Very nice castagnettes party, by the way !

@DTR, I love your Integration projetcts, the way you move with lights, controling them smoothly, and the way lights get some inertia at the end of each movement. Very inspiring !

Well, I'm working on a DIY sensor, built with an iron ball, moving on a rail, rail that you can move; I will probably use this sensor in my next videomapping and light installation made with Max. The idea is to feel (and find) the balance of the ball on the rail, and then create the feeling that lights are living following the behaviour of the ball. It's an equilibrium play... but it's only the beginning; everything can change :-)

Wow, all these different interests, love this thread!

I am currently finalising my personal take on granular synthesis in the shape of a custom external, I have just made a call for beta testing in this thread here:

https://cycling74.com/forums/looking-for-beta-testers-for-my-external/

I am currently finalising my personal take on granular synthesis in the shape of a custom external, I have just made a call for beta testing in this thread here:
https://cycling74.com/forums/looking-for-beta-testers-for-my-external/

I'm working on everthing and nothing. Blinded by infinite possibilities in a period without deadlines.

Just made a mira interface for my video shuffler (mod of the buffer shuffler m4l device).

Playing around with the new kinect and diablodale's beta object

And wondering if it would be possible to make a magic mushroom detector with it.

I'm working on everthing and nothing. Blinded by infinite possibilities in a period without deadlines.
Just made a mira interface for my video shuffler (mod of the buffer shuffler m4l device).
Playing around with the new kinect and diablodale's beta object
And wondering if it would be possible to make a magic mushroom detector with it.


Being a pure m4l user and feeling that most others in that category don't want to touch the edit button, I quite like this thread and think it should be expanded on. Anything to lower the learning curve on the approaches used for any project would help, as the max-oriented help files are seriously dissuasive. To add something myself, I've been working on an instrument. I will release it for free when I finish building and debugging the poly build of it, but here is a toned down picture of its mono build. Max is such a do it yourself program, I'd like to make an overpowered synth with annotation to explain how to achieve the aspects of the synth you'd like to make yourself.

*two balanced fm oscillators fed into two balanced carrier oscillators.

-choice of cycle, saw, tri, rect, noise, pink for each; considering band limiting noise - fine and rough control for duty cycle and rate.

*custom curve ADSR with a timer to control sustain modulation during and after decay phase. (will later add breakpoints)

*freqshift ring modulation with an optional fixed glide, midi sync, and dry wet. I feed that into another version of itself with a dry/wet.

*then just a compressor + overdrive (will fine tune)

*biquad filter (will add envelope routing soon)

Being a pure m4l user and feeling that most others in that category don't want to touch the edit button, I quite like this thread and think it should be expanded on. Anything to lower the learning curve on the approaches used for any project would help, as the max-oriented help files are seriously dissuasive.   To add something myself, I've been working on an instrument.  I will release it for free when I finish building and debugging the poly build of it, but here is a toned down picture of its mono build.  Max is such a do it yourself program, I'd like to make an overpowered synth with annotation to explain how to achieve the aspects of the synth you'd like to make yourself.
-mysynth-
*two balanced fm oscillators fed into two balanced carrier oscillators.
  -choice of cycle, saw, tri, rect, noise, pink for each; considering band limiting noise - fine and rough control for duty cycle and rate.
*custom curve ADSR with a timer to control sustain modulation during and after decay phase.  (will later add breakpoints)
*freqshift ring modulation with an optional fixed glide, midi sync, and dry wet.  I feed that into another version of itself with a dry/wet.
*then just a compressor + overdrive (will fine tune)
*biquad filter (will add envelope routing soon)


@brendan: I love that Katan video. Bit of a mindfuck once it goes 2d. Also, under the hood that thing must have a TON of interaction logic, it's pretty mindboggling.

@gavin: "Blinded by infinite possibilities in a period without deadlines." - pretty much the bane of the maxer, right there. You need a good project, with boundaries.

@Bart: tanx! that inertia is a little touch of jit.phys in there...

im just a beginner with max msp but at the moment im working on sound generation based on motion detection, which eventually might be used with arduino in an installation context !

Arduinos rule, man. Have you checked out Arduivis? I still have a couple of Megas that need to get to work in a modular or something.

Also, I have this digital crossfader from a dj desk that I need to hack, I figure arduino would be the way to go, as well.

Arduinos rule, man. Have you checked out Arduivis? I still have a couple of Megas that need to get to work in a modular or something.
Also, I have this digital crossfader from a dj desk that I need to hack, I figure arduino would be the way to go, as well.


@DTR: jit.phys gives something really more "human" to the movements of the white lines :-)

@Wetterberg: Arduivis is a really, really nice project. Thanks for sharing it ! Lighter than Firmata / Maxuino... It reminds me a little bit the 

 (but this one is "only" for input if you don't modify the code).

@Wetterberg: Arduivis is a really, really nice project. Thanks for sharing it ! Lighter than Firmata / Maxuino... It reminds me a little bit the SensorBox tool by Andrew Benson (but this one is "only" for input if you don't modify the code).


This thing that involves... lots of lights and video stuff triggered/influenced by what a band is performing. Ability to do things like discern what key/mode the music is in and generate some appropriate visuals and lighting. A number of presets referencing multiple inputs from different instruments (kick drum, snare, guitar, synth, etc) and "re-wiring" them to various do-hickeys that do stuff :)

This thing that involves... lots of lights and video stuff triggered/influenced by what a band is performing.  Ability to do things like discern what key/mode the music is in and generate some appropriate visuals and lighting.  A number of presets referencing multiple inputs from different instruments (kick drum, snare, guitar, synth, etc) and "re-wiring" them to various do-hickeys that do stuff :)

Interesting. I'm sitting here wondering if *i* would think there's an appropriate way to visualize g# minor.

Im working on 3d sound installations in the forest (I'm currently in the Ecuadorian Amazon). Im connecting electrical signals in plants to create soundscapes in the forest using Max - Im trying to get the biosphere to reveal hidden processes through sound as part of my PhD in plant electrophysiology and sonic art. You can see a video about what Im up to here (most of the max stuff near the end) :

Im working on 3d sound installations in the forest (I'm currently in the Ecuadorian Amazon). Im connecting electrical signals in plants to create soundscapes in the forest using Max -  Im trying to get the biosphere to reveal hidden processes through sound as part of my PhD in plant electrophysiology and sonic art. You can see a video about what Im up to here (most of the max stuff near the end) :

I’m sitting here wondering if *i* would think there’s an appropriate way to visualize g# minor.

G minor is dark green, a little bit transparent, about 80 centimeters high and comes in the shape of a box, wireframes, with rounded corners.

I’m sitting here wondering if *i* would think there’s an appropriate way to visualize g# minor. 

G minor is dark green, a little bit transparent, about 80 centimeters high and comes in the shape of a box, wireframes, with rounded corners.


rounded corners, eh? So we can conclude that max users hate g minor...

Hey, so the thing i was talking about is there : 

https://cycling74.com/tools/soundstroll/,

 so i flood everywhere i can with advertising :)

Hey, so the thing i was talking about is there : https://cycling74.com/tools/soundstroll/, so i flood everywhere i can with advertising :)


Late to this thread, but @Monetus: BEAP modules can be used to build Max for Live devices really quickly if you're looking for an easy way to get started.

Speaking of, I'm working on some tweaked out D/AD/AHD/ASR envelopes.

@wetterberg, I like your encouring comments!

I am working myself through tutorials again, trying to customize my monome grid

Great thread
@wetterberg, I like your encouring comments!
I am working myself through tutorials again, trying to customize my monome grid


@vichug: 3d sequencer, now properly shared :) Really trippy!

@Peter McC: Those envelopes, are they becoming BEAP modules too? Building for beap certainly seems a lot more appealing, now that it's part of the vanilla distro.

@Naburo: Thank you so much! What does your monome setup look like? All custom stuff, or mods of other patches?

@Wetterberg: that's the idea. Not sure when on those. Let me know if you're interested in testing them out.

@Wetterberg: that's the idea.  Not sure when on those.  Let me know if you're interested in testing them out.


I totally am - I'm transitioning into the synth building side of patches, so the timing is great.

I'd PM with info if it was available...I'm at first.lastname at the gmail.

sheesh... this is now officially the biggest max patch I've ever worked with.

sheesh... this is now officially the biggest max patch I've ever worked with.
http://i.imgur.com/AVp8MaC.png

Curious: What are you working on these days?