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Default font and font size in m4l patches

Dec 14 2010 | 8:25 pm

I would like to set the default font type and size for any new Object I am going make in a amxd patch. I know I can change it every time I create a patch for future Objects by editing in the Patcher Inspector but I want to set this once and for all. On my system here its Arial 13 reg in max Patches and Arial bold 10 in amxd which I don’t like too much used with my screen Resolution. Any Ideas? Or can this be scripted? Or can I find and change the new max Instrument patches created by live somewhere?

Thanks, Joerg

Dec 16 2010 | 12:13 am

Good question. Is this possible? Perhaps someone from C’74?

Dec 16 2010 | 1:33 pm


As far as I remember this is not possible, just like default colors in Mm4L.
The idea is that you use live.color to adapt your device colors to the theme

please correct me if I am wrong


Dec 18 2010 | 11:31 pm

the worst part is not being able to set the grid spacing.

I believe it ought to be possible to replace the default mfl patch, but I forget what the official response to that was.

It clearly gets asked alot, and it’s kind of frustrating to set max preferences that are blatantly ignored because – of course – the mfl device isn’t a "new patch", it’s a preset… a near-empty annoying one.

Dec 19 2010 | 12:06 am

on mac it is:

Live > Contents > App-Resources > Misc > Max Devices.

…i would not recommend it for noobs though.

Dec 20 2010 | 3:33 am

Hi !
I’ve just visited this forum. Happy to get acquainted with you. Thanks.


Feb 19 2011 | 10:26 pm

I thought it was possible, but it doesn’t look like you can open the patches at the path you gave on a Mac. When I try to open them, Max comes to the front but nothing opens.

Have you done this yourself?

Feb 20 2011 | 12:22 pm

right-click on the ‘Live’ app and choose ‘show package contents’.

…i would not recommend it for noobs though.

Feb 20 2011 | 1:07 pm

it works fine for Grid and Font but i can’t change the unlocked background’s color.


Feb 20 2011 | 7:38 pm

@pid: Yes, I already opened and found the files, etc. When I right click them and select Open with Max, Max comes to the front but nothing opens. Anyone else have this issue?

Not a "noob" either. :)

@Olivier: what versions of Live/Max are you using?

Feb 20 2011 | 8:16 pm

HI wade,

they are max for live devices not Max patcher, hence the extensions .amxd

you have to open them in Live, edit them,change the default font via properties panel ( right click in the device bakground).

btw, I use Max 5.1.8 and Live Beta 8.2.2b3

good luck

Feb 20 2011 | 11:29 pm

wade, apologies. yes, what olivier said.

Feb 21 2011 | 4:11 am

Thanks Olivier & pid, I opened them via Live (which opens them in Max – which is where the confusion was), then just saved them to my desktop and replaced them in Works great now.

One strange thing is, I changed the background colours (locked and unlocked) of all of them
but only one of the three kept it’s locked colour. A little odd.

How did you get Max 5.1.8? Also, is the Live 8.2.2 beta pretty stable?

Feb 21 2011 | 8:05 am

you get max 518 when you update live beta, the link is beside.

I can’t tell for stability as I only ran a few tests with it so fare, I guess it is ok.


Feb 21 2011 | 5:31 pm


Do you have a link for the betas?

Feb 21 2011 | 5:38 pm
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