thesprucegoose

Has anyone successfully created a EEG that runs into Max/MSP? If so, can you provide the schematics you used?

I'm just looking for general information to get me started.

eeg-brainwave-synthesis

taken from the multislider help file in max 4.63, maybe of use for you.

For the actual hardware, I'm looking forward to the Emotiv coming out, assuming there's a way to get the info into Max easily. Multislider is definitely the way to go, in bar or scrolling display form. Then you can use your values for whatever you want (relaxation, meditation, audiovisual controls, hypnosis, brainwashing, telekenesis :)

I got the OCZ Neural Impulse Actuator to work with Max, with some effort and a "bridge" program called niaReader. You can also get it directly from the official nia program, but it sends keystrokes and clicks and you lose a lot of resolution (4 "zones" for each sensor instead of the raw values). Interesting to spray letters out from your brain... but scary when those same letters or clicks start to mess with your patch...

The screenshot is of the overall layout once it was working. The nia is interesting and relatively cheap, but I'm thinking the Emotiv will be better by leaps and bounds... can't wait!

For the actual hardware, I'm looking forward to the Emotiv coming out, assuming there's a way to get the info into Max easily. Multislider is definitely the way to go, in bar or scrolling display form. Then you can use your values for whatever you want (relaxation, meditation, audiovisual controls, hypnosis, brainwashing, telekenesis  :)

Did you make any progress with trying to figure out what the numbers coming from NIA actually mean? I reproduced your method of connecting NIA to Max via Brainbay and NIA Output Reader and it works OK! The only problem is that the Output reader sometimes produces an error and stops streaming data which makes it unrealiable to use in any live-music environment, for instance.

Do you by any chance know, if emotiv will offer any kind of comparable data streaming which could be used in Max?

> Do you by any chance know, if emotiv will offer any kind of comparable data streaming which could be used in Max?

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Not at all sure, but I know there's a full SDK that comes with it. So it's certainly *possible* but you may need to write some custom stuff for it, argh. Might be easy, might not. Maybe there will be a simple way to TCP/IP it to localhost etc., or some other means. I do think it'll be a much improved piece both in hardware and software... I'm quite tempted to just get it and then assume there will be a way to get the raw data to stream into Max. Probably will not be too tough... the NIA eventually worked, as we've been discussing, but it really took far too long and with too many intermediate programs needed. Hopefully there'll be an object written soon thereafter that will do everything and just give us some juicy lists. :)

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> Do you by any chance know, if emotiv will offer any kind of comparable data streaming which could be used in Max?
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> Thanks:-)
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Not at all sure, but I know there's a full SDK that comes with it. So it's certainly *possible* but you may need to write some custom stuff for it, argh. Might be easy, might not. Maybe there will be a simple way to TCP/IP it to localhost etc., or some other means. I do think it'll be a much improved piece both in hardware and software... I'm quite tempted to just get it and then assume there will be a way to get the raw data to stream into Max. Probably will not be too tough... the NIA eventually worked, as we've been discussing, but it really took far too long and with too many intermediate programs needed. Hopefully there'll be an object written soon thereafter that will do everything and just give us some juicy lists.  :)


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