scubbs

Im currently studying BA creative music tech. For my final year project im looking to create a new form of guitar multi fx pedal, which the user can manipulate both software and hardware to make their own bespoke multi fx unit.

Im currently looking for a piece of hardware i could load a msxMSP patch onto, and use it away from the computer. It is key that it has minimum of one audio in and out, and midi I/O would be useful. Any help or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated,

Im currently looking for a piece of hardware i could load a msxMSP patch onto, and use it away from the computer. It is key that it has minimum of one audio in and out, and midi I/O would be useful. Any help or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated,
cheers in advance for your time,
scubbs


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At 8:52 PM +0000 3/7/07, tim Price wrote:

>Im currently looking for a piece of hardware i could load a msxMSP patch onto, and use it away from the computer. It is key that it has minimum of one audio in and out, and midi I/O would be useful. Any help or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated,

No stand-alone hardware device, but you could use something like a Mac Mini,with appropriate startup actions, and maybe some sort of USB control.

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At 8:52 PM +0000 3/7/07, tim Price wrote:
>Im currently looking for a piece of hardware i could load a msxMSP patch onto, and use it away from the computer. It is key that it has minimum of one audio in and out, and midi I/O would be useful. Any help or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated,

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i met someone who had PD installed on his ipod, maybe you could install maxmsp on one? no idea how to do it though

Quote: bin wrote on Thu, 08 March 2007 04:29

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> i met someone who had PD installed on his ipod, maybe you could install maxmsp on one? no idea how to do it though 

I don't know about the iPod, but there are HP PDA's which you can use with a version of Pure Data:

I was going to go in this direction for a portable playback system for a theater company, but realized that I could buy a laptop for the same money and have much more flexibility, as well as driving the lighting dimmer.

Quote: bin wrote on Thu, 08 March 2007 04:29
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> i met someone who had PD installed on his ipod, maybe you could install maxmsp on one? no idea how to do it though 
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I don't know about the iPod, but there are HP PDA's which you can use with a version of Pure Data:
gige.xdv.org/pda/

I was going to go in this direction for a portable playback system for a theater company, but realized that I could buy a laptop for the same money and have much more flexibility, as well as driving the lighting dimmer.


I, too, installed PDa way back on a Zaurus C750 running pdaXrom. It was quite difficult to patch on, I must say. heh. But, the main point is to probably load a patch you've patched elsewhere. Theres all gumstix too, to contest with.

I, too, installed PDa way back on a Zaurus C750 running pdaXrom. It was quite difficult to patch on, I must say. heh. But, the main point is to probably load a patch you've patched elsewhere.  Theres all gumstix too, to contest with.


> Im currently looking for a piece of hardware i could load a msxMSP

> patch onto, and use it away from the computer. It is key that it has

> minimum of one audio in and out, and midi I/O would be useful. Any

> help or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated, 

> cheers in advance for your time, scubbs

Max is dependent on the OS (Mac OS X or Windows XP). As mentioned a mac 

mini controlled for example by a FCB foot controller could do it, but 

thats probably not the task. The other option is to switch to Pd, which 

can run on Linux. There are embedded Linux solutions out there somewhere...

As the UI has to be non screen based anyway, its probably not too much 

of a drawback to use Pd instead of Max/MSP, it even knows a special 

non-GUI mode, but you need to have much more of a hackers mind... ;-)

tim Price schrieb:
> Im currently looking for a piece of hardware i could load a msxMSP
> patch onto, and use it away from the computer. It is key that it has
> minimum of one audio in and out, and midi I/O would be useful. Any
> help or nudges in the right direction would be much appreciated, 
> cheers in advance for your time, scubbs 

Max is dependent on the OS (Mac OS X or Windows XP). As mentioned a mac 
mini controlled for example by a FCB foot controller could do it, but 
thats probably not the task. The other option is to switch to Pd, which 
can run on Linux. There are embedded Linux solutions out there somewhere...
As the UI has to be non screen based anyway, its probably not too much 
of a drawback to use Pd instead of Max/MSP, it even knows a special 
non-GUI mode, but you need to have much more of a hackers mind... ;-)

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thanks guys, looks like i'll have to get it working on my laptop first, and then think about getting max or pd running on a pda/ipod(hopefully my shiny new iphone by then!). I wondered whether i could convert it into a vst, and then use it like gutar rig as standalone or in a sequencer. Also i could possibly load it into an external vst box. Also are there any easy maxmsp to pd wrappers, im guessing thats gonna be a swing and a miss, but worth a try.

Quote: scubbs wrote on Thu, 15 March 2007 16:55

> thanks guys, looks like i'll have to get it working on my laptop first, and then think about getting max or pd running on a pda/ipod(hopefully my shiny new iphone by then!). I wondered whether i could convert it into a vst, and then use it like gutar rig as standalone or in a sequencer. Also i could possibly load it into an external vst box. Also are there any easy maxmsp to pd wrappers, im guessing thats gonna be a swing and a miss, but worth a try.

besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the soundcard, though

Quote: scubbs wrote on Thu, 15 March 2007 16:55
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> thanks guys, looks like i'll have to get it working on my laptop first, and then think about getting max or pd running on a pda/ipod(hopefully my shiny new iphone by then!). I wondered whether i could convert it into a vst, and then use it like gutar rig as standalone or in a sequencer. Also i could possibly load it into an external vst box. Also are there any easy maxmsp to pd wrappers, im guessing thats gonna be a swing and a miss, but worth a try.
>
> cheers
>
> scubbs
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besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the soundcard, though


I'm not sure how much DSP the CPU could handle though...

> Quote: scubbs wrote on Thu, 15 March 2007 16:55

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> > thanks guys, looks like i'll have to get it working on my laptop first,

> and then think about getting max or pd running on a pda/ipod(hopefully my

> shiny new iphone by then!). I wondered whether i could convert it into a

> vst, and then use it like gutar rig as standalone or in a sequencer. Also i

> could possibly load it into an external vst box. Also are there any easy

> maxmsp to pd wrappers, im guessing thats gonna be a swing and a miss, but

> besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a

> PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the soundcard,

On 8/15/07, julienbreval  wrote:
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>
> Quote: scubbs wrote on Thu, 15 March 2007 16:55
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> > thanks guys, looks like i'll have to get it working on my laptop first,
> and then think about getting max or pd running on a pda/ipod(hopefully my
> shiny new iphone by then!). I wondered whether i could convert it into a
> vst, and then use it like gutar rig as standalone or in a sequencer. Also i
> could possibly load it into an external vst box. Also are there any easy
> maxmsp to pd wrappers, im guessing thats gonna be a swing and a miss, but
> worth a try.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > scubbs
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a
> PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the soundcard,
> though
>

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> PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the

I'd LOVE to know more about that. But found nothing on the net. Do you 

mean by using a Linux ? Or as a special build for the ps2 ?

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>     besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a
>     PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the
>     soundcard, though
>
I'd LOVE to know more about that. But found nothing on the net. Do you 
mean by using a Linux ? Or as a special build for the ps2 ?

the fit-pc is based on this bare bone module from compulab (same company).

http://www.compulab.co.il/iglx/html/iglx-cm-datasheet.htm

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2194852,00.asp

i have contacted them and will visit there soon.

> > besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a

> > PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the

> I'd LOVE to know more about that. But found nothing on the net. Do you

> mean by using a Linux ? Or as a special build for the ps2 ?

the fit-pc is based on this bare bone module from compulab (same company).
http://www.compulab.co.il/iglx/html/iglx-cm-datasheet.htm
there is a review of the fit-pc
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2194852,00.asp

On 8/17/07, f.e  wrote:
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> >
> >
> >     besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a
> >     PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the
> >     soundcard, though
> >
> I'd LOVE to know more about that. But found nothing on the net. Do you
> mean by using a Linux ? Or as a special build for the ps2 ?
>
> f.e
>

Quote: f.e wrote on Fri, 17 August 2007 10:51

> I'd LOVE to know more about that. But found nothing on the net. Do you 

I'm sorry, I don't have any precise information about it. Most probably, the people who did it either used a lived CD that includes Pd or managed to install a custom Linux and then Pd.

Perhaps you can try to browse the Pure Data forum: 

Quote: f.e wrote on Fri, 17 August 2007 10:51
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> >
> >
> >     besides all these good solutions, you can also run Pure Data on a
> >     PlayStation (2 or 3, I don't remember) - I wonder about the
> >     soundcard, though
> >
> I'd LOVE to know more about that. But found nothing on the net. Do you 
> mean by using a Linux ? Or as a special build for the ps2 ?
>
> f.e
>
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I'm sorry, I don't have any precise information about it. Most probably, the people who did it either used a lived CD that includes Pd or managed to install a custom Linux and then Pd.
Perhaps you can try to browse the Pure Data forum: http://iem.at/pd/


What about using the patch as a plug-in? VST or whatnot? Is there a piece of hardware that's NOT a PC or mac that can take advantage of this?

What about using the patch as a plug-in?  VST or whatnot?  Is there a piece of hardware that's NOT a PC or mac that can take advantage of this?


Quote: mopppish wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 00:29

> What about using the patch as a plug-in? VST or whatnot? Is there a piece of hardware that's NOT a PC or mac that can take advantage of this? 

maxmsp plug-ins require the runtime, which requires windows or OSX plus an usb slot for the dongle (or at least a write-enabled drive)

Quote: mopppish wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 00:29
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> What about using the patch as a plug-in?  VST or whatnot?  Is there a piece of hardware that's NOT a PC or mac that can take advantage of this? 
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maxmsp plug-ins require the runtime, which requires windows or OSX plus an usb slot for the dongle (or at least a write-enabled drive)


there was some misshap with activation on non traditional pc chipsets,

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=65345

> Quote: mopppish wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 00:29

> > What about using the patch as a plug-in? VST or whatnot? Is there a

> piece of hardware that's NOT a PC or mac that can take advantage of this?

> maxmsp plug-ins require the runtime, which requires windows or OSX plus an

> usb slot for the dongle (or at least a write-enabled drive)

there was some misshap with activation on non traditional pc chipsets,
beware
https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=65345

On 10/24/07, Roman Thilenius  wrote:
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> Quote: mopppish wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 00:29
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> > What about using the patch as a plug-in?  VST or whatnot?  Is there a
> piece of hardware that's NOT a PC or mac that can take advantage of this?
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>
> maxmsp plug-ins require the runtime, which requires windows or OSX plus an
> usb slot for the dongle (or at least a write-enabled drive)
> --
> http://vst-mac.info/
>

http://www.museresearch.com/products/index.php

I sat in on a talk at CCRMA in Stanford about how to use the Beagleboard (

 which runs the "Satelitte" distribution of Linux ( 

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~eberdahl/Satellite/),

 to build a Guitar Stomp-box that uses Puredata as it's audio processing engine.

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/wiki/Stompbox_2012

I sat in on a talk at CCRMA in Stanford about how to use the Beagleboard (http://beagleboard.org), which runs the "Satelitte" distribution of Linux ( https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~eberdahl/Satellite/), to build a Guitar Stomp-box that uses Puredata as it's audio processing engine.  

Perhaps this could get you started? https://ccrma.stanford.edu/wiki/Stompbox_2012


External maxMsp hardware?