Jan M

Hi all those who (still) work with Java in Max (like me)!

I recently had a conversation with support about the state of Java inside Max, because we were discussing it here in the forum once in a while. The good news is: Java will be supported in the future. The not so good news is, currently (and i assume also for the future) there are no plans for further development of Java in Max. C74s focus is on keeping it running the way it is. Bugs that will not break functionality (such as some UI bugs in the code editor) will not be fixed. new features are not to be expected. (Not that this is a big news, we kind of knew it already but this was the first time that I heard it "officially" ;) ).

In the past there were some questions around Java that were asked repeatedly, so I thought: Isn't that what a wiki is for!

Here some short articles that i recently added to the wiki intended to make it easier to get an overview of the state of Java and save newbees to Java in Max some headache in discovering all issues one by one:

https://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Java_cross_platform_issues

https://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Java_on_OS_X_10.9_(and_later)

https://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Java_known_issues

Fell free, especially for the last one, the know issues, to join in and keeping them up to date.

I recently had a conversation with support about the state of Java inside Max, because we were discussing it here in the forum once in a while. The good news is: Java will be supported in the future. The not so good news is, currently (and i assume also for the future) there are no plans for further development of Java in Max. C74s focus is on keeping it running the way it is. Bugs that will not break functionality (such as some UI bugs in the code editor) will not be fixed. new features are not to be expected. (Not that this is a big news, we kind of knew it already but this was the first time that I heard it "officially" ;) ). 

https://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Java_cross_platform_issues
https://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Java_on_OS_X_10.9_(and_later)
https://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?title=Java_known_issues

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Good stuff. Of course, biggest question at the moment is whether Max 7 will support Oracle Java or not...

(someone singing silently in the background)

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* Que sera, sera ... *


I was wondering about this. Thanks for following all this up, Jan. Honestly, I'd never seen the Max Wiki. So double thanks.

It's nice to know Java in Max will still exist. Super keen to know if there's even an intention to include Oracle Java or not, Max 7 or down the track.

Thanks for this. this is really valuable info. But I just have to say it is possible to use java 1.7 on a mac with max.

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_21-b12)

Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.21-b01, mixed mode)

I went through an extended process of taking all evening to install 1.7 because I needed some java functionality that only existed in v1.7, so now I have java 1.7 in max on a mac. But I can't remember how I did it. What I do remember is build 0_21 is the latest (final) version that will work on a mac. I will trawl through my web history and try and find the link that showed me how to do it.

java version "1.7.0_21"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_21-b12)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.21-b01, mixed mode)

I went through an extended process of taking all evening to install 1.7 because I needed some java functionality that only existed in v1.7, so now I have java 1.7 in max on a mac. But I can't remember how I did it. What I do remember is build 0_21 is the latest (final) version that will work on a mac. I will trawl through my web history and try and find the link that showed me how to do it.


here's a link for installing java 1.7 (apparently up to v _40 but I was only successful/did it with v _21). this was specific to my needs at the time with os 10.6.8, so I know it works fine on my os with max 6.1.x, 32-bit mode. (it should also work for 10.7, .8, .9)

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13536667/how-to-install-java-jdk-7-on-snow-leopard

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