rox1908

So I watched this youtube video the other day:

In the video he uses C# programming as a means of tracking his finger on the screen. Is it possible to do something like this utilizing Max/Jitter software with the Infrared LED light?

finger-tracking-wii-maxmsp

The first step for using a wiimote with Max is Akamatsu's

aka.wiiremoteexternal, though I'm not sure how it would work with

Have a look for OSCulator, I believe that may be of help in getting data

> So I watched this youtube video the other day:

> In the video he uses C# programming as a means of tracking his finger on

> the screen. Is it possible to do something like this utilizing Max/Jitter

The first step for using a wiimote with Max is Akamatsu's
aka.wiiremoteexternal, though I'm not sure how it would work with
Johnny Chung Lee's
method.

Have a look for OSCulator, I believe that may be of help in getting data
to/from the wiimote and Max MSP

On 31/01/2008, Roxanna Allen  wrote:
>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> So I watched this youtube video the other day:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0awjPUkBXOU
>
> In the video he uses C# programming as a means of tracking his finger on
> the screen. Is it possible to do something like this utilizing Max/Jitter
> software with the Infrared LED light?
>
> HELP!!  :-(
>

Well...I have the wii remote external...I have set up my bluetooth with my wii remote...and I have everything working in Max/Jitter. It was just a thought I had while sitting here bored at work, if there was a possibility of using the IR LEDs and reflective tape on my fingers with another kind of programming such as Max...as opposed to C# stuff...I guess I'll just test it out when I go home. Just wanted to see if anyone else has tried it...

What exactly does the Osculator do? If the wii remote external is already set up...what extra would the osculator add to the equation?

I am on a G4 laptop so the aka.wiiremote object doesn't work

but I have been using OSCulator with four IR sources

my next project is to mod two LED flashlights with IR LED's

OSCulator works very nicely and is easy to set up and use

On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:51 AM, Roxanna Allen wrote:

> In the video he uses C# programming as a means of tracking his 

> finger on the screen. Is it possible to do something like this 

> utilizing Max/Jitter software with the Infrared LED light?

yes
I am on a G4 laptop so the aka.wiiremote object doesn't work
but I have been using OSCulator with four IR sources
my next project is to mod two LED flashlights with IR LED's
and use four pieces of reflective tape
for tracking a dancers movements
OSCulator works very nicely and is easy to set up and use
http://www.osculator.net/wiki/
check it out

>
> Hey everyone,
>
> So I watched this youtube video the other day:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0awjPUkBXOU
>
> In the video he uses C# programming as a means of tracking his  
> finger on the screen. Is it possible to do something like this  
> utilizing Max/Jitter software with the Infrared LED light?
>
> HELP!!  :-(


Thank you so much! I'm working on a similar project...Originally I started out using physical computing, but was bored to tears..then I realized there was this whole new world of wii with Max/Jitter technology out there..and now the osculator!

I have just built a simple IR LED panel and got wiimote position data quite accurately from MAX/MSP via the tk.wii external(on PC obviously). The LEDs should number at least 15, the reflective tape should be highly reflective; I found that aluminum tape or other shiny surfaces just don't work well enough. But a simple 'pointer/tracker' type IR camera system works just as well (but will only track one dot i think)

I have just built a simple IR LED panel and got wiimote position data quite accurately from MAX/MSP via the tk.wii external(on PC obviously). The LEDs should number at least 15, the reflective tape should be highly reflective; I found that aluminum tape or other shiny surfaces just don't work well enough. But a simple 'pointer/tracker' type IR camera system works just as well (but will only track one dot i think)
Brendan


You can get the position and size of four IR sources.

Send 'extraoutput 1' to aka.wiiremote (1.0B7) and see 'others' subpatch.

On 2008/01/31, at 23:51, Roxanna Allen wrote:

You can get the position and size of four IR sources.
Send 'extraoutput 1' to aka.wiiremote (1.0B7) and see 'others' subpatch.

>
> Hey everyone,
>
> So I watched this youtube video the other day:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0awjPUkBXOU
>
> In the video he uses C# programming as a means of tracking his  
> finger on the screen. Is it possible to do something like this  
> utilizing Max/Jitter software with the Infrared LED light?
>
> HELP!!  :-(
>

Thanks so much for refering me to the osculator...So I was introduced to Ableton Live. I figured out how to control Ableton Live with my wii remote via the Osculator....as well as Max/MSP

Problem is I can't get my finger to track so that I can control sound. I have an IR LED array and reflective tape to reflect back the infrared light from the wii remote in order to control what was on the screen...

I have selected "Raw IR" & "IR on the osculator, I have also made sure in preferences in ableton live that the track & remote is on,....but I guess I'm not sure what the event type & value should be for the LEDs x, y...If this makes sense to anyone PLEASE HELP!

On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Roxanna Allen wrote:

> I have selected "Raw IR" & "IR on the osculator, I have also made 

> sure in preferences in ableton live that the track & remote is 

> on,....but I guess I'm not sure what the event type & value should 

> be for the LEDs x, y...If this makes sense to anyone PLEASE HELP!

you only need select the 'RAW IR' box since you are tracking ~4 

individual IR sources and not triangulating the wii remote

next you should select MIDI CC from the Events pull down when you are 

then set up the Value to be the CC# you want to send the data as

then set up the MIDI channel(s) you want to send on

then set up LIVE to accept the CC#'s you are sending from OSCulator

and map them to what you want to control in LIVE

On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Roxanna Allen wrote:
>
>
> I have selected "Raw IR" & "IR on the osculator, I have also made  
> sure in preferences in ableton live that the track & remote is  
> on,....but I guess I'm not sure what the event type & value should  
> be for the LEDs x, y...If this makes sense to anyone PLEASE HELP!
you only need select the 'RAW IR' box since you are tracking ~4  
individual IR sources and not triangulating the wii remote

next you should select MIDI CC from the Events pull down when you are  
setting up your OSCulator file

then set up the Value to be the CC# you want to send the data as
  send each xys1 - xys4 on a different CC#

then set up LIVE to accept the CC#'s you are sending from OSCulator
and map them to what you want to control in LIVE
hope this helps!
:)


I tried to recompiled a extension that I had been using under 10.4.xx

In file included from /Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/ 

    /Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 

z_altivec.h:13: error: syntax error before 'vector'

z_altivec.h:13: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union

z_altivec.h:14: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of 

z_altivec.h:14: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

z_altivec.h:16: error: syntax error before '__vsf_temp'

z_altivec.h:16: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of 

z_altivec.h:16: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

On Feb 5, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Kim Cascone wrote:

> On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Roxanna Allen wrote:

>> I have selected "Raw IR" & "IR on the osculator, I have also made 

>> sure in preferences in ableton live that the track & remote is 

>> on,....but I guess I'm not sure what the event type & value should 

>> be for the LEDs x, y...If this makes sense to anyone PLEASE HELP!

> you only need select the 'RAW IR' box since you are tracking ~4 

> individual IR sources and not triangulating the wii remote

> next you should select MIDI CC from the Events pull down when you 

> then set up the Value to be the CC# you want to send the data as

> send each xys1 - xys4 on a different CC#

> then set up the MIDI channel(s) you want to send on

> then set up LIVE to accept the CC#'s you are sending from OSCulator

> and map them to what you want to control in LIVE

I tried to recompiled a extension that I had been using under 10.4.xx
and got this error

In file included from /Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/ 
msp-includes/z_dsp.h:14,
	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
z_altivec.h:13: error: syntax error before 'vector'
	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
z_altivec.h:13: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
z_altivec.h:14: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of  
'floatToVector'
	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
z_altivec.h:14: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
z_altivec.h:16: error: syntax error before '__vsf_temp'
	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
z_altivec.h:16: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of  
'__vsf_temp'
	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
z_altivec.h:16: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Roxanna Allen wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have selected "Raw IR" & "IR on the osculator, I have also made  
>> sure in preferences in ableton live that the track & remote is  
>> on,....but I guess I'm not sure what the event type & value should  
>> be for the LEDs x, y...If this makes sense to anyone PLEASE HELP!
> you only need select the 'RAW IR' box since you are tracking ~4  
> individual IR sources and not triangulating the wii remote
>
> next you should select MIDI CC from the Events pull down when you  
> are setting up your OSCulator file
>
> then set up the Value to be the CC# you want to send the data as
>  send each xys1 - xys4 on a different CC#
>
> then set up the MIDI channel(s) you want to send on
>
> then set up LIVE to accept the CC#'s you are sending from OSCulator
> and map them to what you want to control in LIVE
> hope this helps!
> :)
>


On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:00 PM, michael ferraro wrote:

I tried to recompiled a external that I have been using under 10.4.xx

I tried to recompiled a external that I have been using under 10.4.xx
and got this error

You might want to move this discussion to the Dev forum, but 

regardless, take a look at this thread. I think Cycling has to 

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=125828

At 11:28 AM -0500 2/7/08, michael ferraro wrote:

>On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:00 PM, michael ferraro wrote:

>I tried to recompiled a external that I have been using under 10.4.xx

>In file included from /Applications/MaxMSP 

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_dsp.h:14,

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:13: error: syntax 

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:13: warning: no 

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:14: warning: type 

>defaults to 'int' in declaration of 'floatToVector'

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:14: warning: data 

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:16: error: syntax 

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:16: warning: type 

>defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__vsf_temp'

>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:16: warning: data 

202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 

You might want to move this discussion to the Dev forum, but 
regardless, take a look at this thread.  I think Cycling has to 
update the SDK somehow for 10.5....

At 11:28 AM -0500 2/7/08, michael ferraro wrote:
>DP 2.7 G5 MacOSX 10.5.1
>MaxMSP 4.6.1
>
>SDK 4.6
>
>
>On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:00 PM, michael ferraro wrote:
>
>I tried to recompiled a external that I have been using under 10.4.xx
>and got this error
>
>
>
>
>In file included from /Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_dsp.h:14,
>	/Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:13: error: syntax 
>error before 'vector'
>	/Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:13: warning: no 
>semicolon at end of struct or union
>	/Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:14: warning: type 
>defaults to 'int' in declaration of 'floatToVector'
>	/Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:14: warning: data 
>definition has no type or storage class
>	/Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:16: error: syntax 
>error before '__vsf_temp'
>	/Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:16: warning: type 
>defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__vsf_temp'
>	/Applications/MaxMSP 
>4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/z_altivec.h:16: warning: data 
>definition has no type or storage class
>
>
>M
>>

-- 
Dan Nigrin
Defective Records
202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X / Major 
Malfunction
http://www.defectiverecords.com
http://www.jackosx.com


On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Dan Nigrin wrote:

> You might want to move this discussion to the Dev forum, but 

> regardless, take a look at this thread. I think Cycling has to 

> At 11:28 AM -0500 2/7/08, michael ferraro wrote:

>> On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:00 PM, michael ferraro wrote:

>> I tried to recompiled a external that I have been using under 10.4.xx

>> In file included from /Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/ 

>>     /Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 

>> z_altivec.h:13: error: syntax error before 'vector'

>> z_altivec.h:13: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union

>> z_altivec.h:14: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of 

>> z_altivec.h:14: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

>> z_altivec.h:16: error: syntax error before '__vsf_temp'

>> z_altivec.h:16: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of 

>> z_altivec.h:16: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

Sorry I should have realize that
thanks for the lead

> Hi Michael,
>
> You might want to move this discussion to the Dev forum, but  
> regardless, take a look at this thread.  I think Cycling has to  
> update the SDK somehow for 10.5....
>
> https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=125828
>
> Dan
>
> At 11:28 AM -0500 2/7/08, michael ferraro wrote:
>> DP 2.7 G5 MacOSX 10.5.1
>> MaxMSP 4.6.1
>>
>> SDK 4.6
>>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:00 PM, michael ferraro wrote:
>>
>> I tried to recompiled a external that I have been using under 10.4.xx
>> and got this error
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In file included from /Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/ 
>> c74support/msp-includes/z_dsp.h:14,
>> 	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
>> z_altivec.h:13: error: syntax error before 'vector'
>> 	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
>> z_altivec.h:13: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
>> 	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
>> z_altivec.h:14: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of  
>> 'floatToVector'
>> 	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
>> z_altivec.h:14: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
>> 	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
>> z_altivec.h:16: error: syntax error before '__vsf_temp'
>> 	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
>> z_altivec.h:16: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of  
>> '__vsf_temp'
>> 	/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/MaxMSP-SDK/c74support/msp-includes/ 
>> z_altivec.h:16: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
>>
>>
>> M
>>>
>
>
> -- 
> Dan Nigrin
> Defective Records
> 202 Hack / PC-1600 User / VSTi Host / OMS Convert / Jack OS X /  
> Major Malfunction
> http://www.defectiverecords.com
> http://www.jackosx.com
>


does anybody has ever made that kind of patch for finger tracking? I am working on a similar project and I never worked really with max map. So it will be nice if he or she can post it here. :)

And what are the options for getting data to/from the wiimote and Max MSP? I know only oscillator, but there ist a bug in the version I installed and I am looking for another solution. 

Hey there,
does anybody has ever made that kind of patch for finger tracking? I am working on a similar project and I never worked really with max map. So it will be nice if he or she can post it here. :)

And what are the options for getting data to/from the wiimote and Max MSP? I know only oscillator, but there ist a bug in the version I installed and I am looking for another  solution. 

Thanks!

Finger tracking / wii / MaxMSP