Forum issue – Starting new thread – Learn from my mistake
Over the years, I’ve habitually started new threads on the Max/MSP list by
hitting reply to anything in my Max/MSP/Jitter mailbox. I then do the
obvious of changing the subject line and body.
This does not work with the new forum.
Even though the subject line changes, the Forum sees the new email with new
subject as a response to the original email and places it in that thread.
It doesn’t work with a lot of email clients too. There’s another
piece of data embedded in an email that can be used to tracks
"conversations," regardless of whether the subject changes or not.
This didn’t really work with the mailing list either. You’ve been
hidden in my thread view for a long time now, which (sanely) relies
on reply-to headers to know which emails are replies to others.
today i read the forum for the second time after
day 1, and noticed how bad forum and mail is working
together, too many of us seem to hit reply buttons
for starting new posts, and so i do.
i will miss the email list, but in the next days i
will unsubscribe and switch to using the forum only
for read and write tasks.
this does mean that i will no longer be able to
read all the wonderful off topic posts in the jitter
forum, but it also means my own posts will go into
the right thread in the future.
hopefully many of you will follow.
– attachement: 110.zip
When I brought this up a year ago, people told me it was the fault of
my email client, and that I should stop complaining about it.
However, if it isn’t obvious by now to everyone that this behavior
needs to stop, it never will be. It takes 1/100th of the time you
spend typing the body of your email to type the first few letters of
"maxmsp" into your To field before autocomplete takes over.
The reply-to header is a very useful piece of information that can
enables forum/list integration go smoothly (you still have issues
with quoting versus non-quoting, but if you use threading in your
email client, this is negated). Without it, it would be incredibly
difficult (you’d have to guess by the subject). To ignore it or abuse
it makes the forums and threaded email clients less useful (or worse,
unusable, as is now basically the case).
I know I sound like a whiny brat, but the abuse of reply-to literally
doubles the amount of time I have to spend parsing the Max list to
find what is interesting/helpful/etc. This is a high volume list, and
if I want to look at everything that goes through, threads can knock
five minutes off my email time each day and make it less of a hassle
see john, you name it, quoting and not quoting
is the next issue we have when 50% uf us are
using the forum and 50% reading mails.
back in the days noone ever used the archieves
for other purposes than searching, and proper
threads were not required for that.
now many people use the archieves (=forum), because
you can also reply here now.
that why my call for moving to the forum.
oh and, stop complaining! ;P
– sabine christiansen 110 (rababababa…)