rory.stjohn@gmail.com

Hi all, hope the tension is bearable coming up to the max 5 release :)

a quick qs. i was wondering if any of you had experience/info regarding geometric modelling. typically i would like to put some gestural data through a 2d/3d grid that would model some level of physical attributes to the input, and pass on some numbers to a synthesis engine. it a hard topic to find info on. I have someting done in VVVV (graphical) and was trying to get something similar in Max.msp.jit. im guessing it will involve jitter matrices in some way.

geometricphyscial-modelling

Quote: rory.stjohn@gmail.com wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 17:56

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no, you're not. i'm also pretty sure it would involve some jitter matrices ;)

but seriously. i'm sorry, i personally can't help you with this, but i'm sure there are others around that can. 

maybe the jitter forum is a better place to ask?

Quote: rory.stjohn@gmail.com wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 17:56
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> maybe im being crazy?
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but seriously. i'm sorry, i personally can't help you with this, but i'm sure there are others around that can. 
maybe the jitter forum is a better place to ask?

a couple options for physical modeling:
the pmpd objects.
the jit.lua ode mod


> a couple options for physical modeling:

Robert Ramirez schrieb:
> a couple options for physical modeling:
> the pmpd objects.
> the jit.lua ode mod

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from your description I am not exactly sure what you are trying to 

achieve. first I thought you were talking about sound, but now I think 

as rob already mentioned ode is a good place to start with rigid object 

interaction, python offers an ode package. mass spring damper 

functionality is included in pmpd and msd externals.

> Hi all, hope the tension is bearable coming up to the max 5 release :)

> a quick qs. i was wondering if any of you had experience/info regarding geometric modelling. typically i would like to put some gestural data through a 2d/3d grid that would model some level of physical attributes to the input, and pass on some numbers to a synthesis engine. it a hard topic to find info on. I have someting done in VVVV (graphical) and was trying to get something similar in Max.msp.jit. im guessing it will involve jitter matrices in some way.

hi,
from your description I am not exactly sure what you are trying to 
achieve. first I thought you were talking about sound, but now I think 
you meant interaction of 3d objects?
as rob already mentioned ode is a good place to start with rigid object 
interaction, python offers an ode package. mass spring damper 
functionality is included in pmpd and msd externals.
does this help you?
marius.

chrome-metronome wrote:
> Hi all, hope the tension is bearable coming up to the max 5 release :)
>
> a quick qs. i was wondering if any of you had experience/info regarding geometric modelling. typically i would like to put some gestural data through a 2d/3d grid that would model some level of physical attributes to the input, and pass on some numbers to a synthesis engine. it a hard topic to find info on. I have someting done in VVVV (graphical) and was trying to get something similar in Max.msp.jit. im guessing it will involve jitter matrices in some way.
>
> any help greatly appreciated.
> thanks
>


On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:28 PM, chrome-metronome

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On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:28 PM, chrome-metronome
 wrote:
>
>  Hi all, hope the tension is bearable coming up to the max 5 release :)
>
>  a quick qs. i was wondering if any of you had experience/info regarding geometric modelling. typically i would like to put some gestural data through a 2d/3d grid that would model some level of physical attributes to the input, and pass on some numbers to a synthesis engine. it a hard topic to find info on. I have someting done in VVVV (graphical) and was trying to get something similar in Max.msp.jit. im guessing it will involve jitter matrices in some way.
>
>  any help greatly appreciated.
>  thanks


yes great this is the kinda stuff im after. sorry for the bad terminology.

ya the PDMP plugs look the trick! it was actually from an ALi Momeni paper i got the concept from. theyre a bit hard to grasp at first tho :

ya the PDMP plugs look the trick! it was actually from an ALi Momeni paper i got the concept from. theyre a bit hard to grasp at first  tho :


> ya the PDMP plugs look the trick! it was actually from an ALi Momeni 

> paper i got the concept from. theyre a bit hard to grasp at first 

I've made a set of abstraction and a kind of tutorial for PMPD :

> ya the PDMP plugs look the trick! it was actually from an ALi Momeni  
> paper i got the concept from. theyre a bit hard to grasp at first   
> tho :

I've made a set of abstraction and a kind of tutorial for PMPD :
mc.PMPD : http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm
please have a look at it !

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Wow.
Thank you this is really incredible.

I've made a set of abstraction and a kind of tutorial for PMPD :
> mc.PMPD : http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max.htm
> please have a look at it !
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i think this might have effected the way i view you patches as there are no outlets to your objects. is this the case? thanks

i think this might have effected the way i view you patches as there are no outlets to your objects. is this the case? thanks
r


hmm.. i have the objects downloaded and in my external folder. i can call up the pdmp objects. just when i go to open your patches/tuts/abstractions i get errors ::::

• error: mc.pmpd.link.param: No such object

so if i try to rename you object from "mc.pmpd.mass cloc @gr mass @id 1 @Xmin 0. @Xmax 100." to "pdmp.mass @gr. .....",, i get bad argument.

also, i notice that some of your abstractions use the RIght inlet on pdmp objects? i do not have a right inlet on most of mine, only the 'link' one.

maybe i downloaded old ones? or am i missing something?

i would greatly appreaciate some more examples on this.

• error: mc.pmpd.link.param: No such object
• error: mc.pmpd.link: No such object
• error: mc.pmpd.mass: No such object

also, i notice that some of your abstractions use the RIght inlet on pdmp objects? i do not have a right inlet on most of mine, only the 'link' one. 

maybe i downloaded old ones? or am i missing something?
i would greatly appreaciate some more examples on this.
thanks for your help so far
r


just in case you read it thru the web forum, here are the URLs :

http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/PMPD_UB.zip

http://drpichon.free.fr/pmpd/download/pmpd-for-max-xp.zip

http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/mc.PMPD_1.05.zip

PMPD library :
PMPD mac UB : PMPD_UB http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/PMPD_UB.zip
PMPD for windows : pmpd-for-max-xp.zip http://drpichon.free.fr/pmpd/download/pmpd-for-max-xp.zip
mc.pmpd :
lattest version is : mc.PMPD_1.05 http://www.mathieuchamagne.com/max/mc.PMPD_1.05.zip

ah yes.. i have them now!! :) i didnt realise that the mc. were infact a whole patch. thanks alot! now to make some sense of it all! :)

thanks again & i hope you enjoying some nice weather 

Geometric/Physcial modelling.