joelsquare

Oh dear, my first post, and I'm already stamping NEWBIE on my forehead...

Hi. I'm trying to build a rather complex setup for my first attempt on MAX in about 10 years. I'm still getting the hang of MSP objects, so apologies in advance for these tragically straightforward questions...

I'm dealing with a VST plugin (instrument) within a MAX environment. (To be specific, I'm using Stylus RMX as an engine to do sample and REX File playback).

A) how the heck do I route MIDI to a VST instrument? I know this should be basic, but I actually can't seem to find the way to make it happen.

B) is there any way to have a MAIN SYNC? So any VST's that need a sync to function can work? (For example, Stylus can automatically have tonnes of cool things that work to the master tempo, but it needs a MASTER tempo). Am I overlooking something obvious?

I'm a smart guy, but I'm still getting back into the groove of this :)

Hi.  I'm trying to build a rather complex setup for my first attempt on MAX in about 10 years.  I'm still getting the hang of MSP objects, so apologies in advance for these tragically straightforward questions...

I'm dealing with a VST plugin (instrument) within a MAX environment.  (To be specific, I'm using Stylus RMX as an engine to do sample and REX File playback).

A) how the heck do I route MIDI to a VST instrument?  I know this should be basic, but I actually can't seem to find the way to make it happen.

B) is there any way to have a MAIN SYNC? So any VST's that need a sync to function can work? (For example, Stylus can automatically have tonnes of cool things that work to the master tempo, but it needs a MASTER tempo).  Am I overlooking something obvious?

i-know-its-obvious-but

if you need quick... check out the midievent message (in the help 

sync I'm unsure of. alternatively command-option click on an object 

if you need quick...  check out the midievent message (in the help  
file.)
sync I'm unsure of.  alternatively command-option click on an object  
gives a list of available messages

I'm still struggling with how this will work. Shouldn't it be easy to send MIDI to a VST instrument?

How can I use 'midievent' so that the instrument is playable? My brain is about to explode. Not literally.

I'm still struggling with how this will work.  Shouldn't it be easy to send MIDI to a VST instrument?

How can I use 'midievent' so that the instrument is playable?  My brain is about to explode.  Not literally.

Here's a basic vst~ wrapper for VSTi's, that should

As for the sync question, there's been some fairly

lively debate on this subject on the list recently,

under the heading 'Vst Prayer', or for those of you

https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=18343&sta

 rt=0&rid=925&S=fe5ea797b417dbc7aaa1bd77d4264021

The bottom line appears to be 'not currently

> Oh dear, my first post, and I'm already stamping

> Hi. I'm trying to build a rather complex setup for

> my first attempt on MAX in about 10 years. I'm

> still getting the hang of MSP objects, so apologies

> in advance for these tragically straightforward

> I'm dealing with a VST plugin (instrument) within a

> MAX environment. (To be specific, I'm using Stylus

> RMX as an engine to do sample and REX File

> A) how the heck do I route MIDI to a VST instrument?

> I know this should be basic, but I actually can't

> seem to find the way to make it happen.

> B) is there any way to have a MAIN SYNC? So any

> VST's that need a sync to function can work? (For

> example, Stylus can automatically have tonnes of

> cool things that work to the master tempo, but it

> needs a MASTER tempo). Am I overlooking something

> I'm a smart guy, but I'm still getting back into the

Here's a basic vst~ wrapper for VSTi's, that should
help get you going.
  As for the sync question, there's been some fairly
lively debate on this subject on the list recently,
under the heading 'Vst Prayer', or for those of you
who love long url's:
 https://cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=18343&sta rt=0&rid=925&S=fe5ea797b417dbc7aaa1bd77d4264021
The bottom line appears to be 'not currently
possible'. 
cheers
Roger

max v2;
#N vpatcher 167 202 1141 815;
#P origin -79 0;
#P button 30 104 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 143 316 31 196617 sel 1;
#P newex 143 293 31 196617 sel 1;
#P message 31 136 55 196617 176 123 0;
#P newex 226 153 38 196617 unpack;
#P newex 429 123 30 196617 gate;
#P newex 355 106 30 196617 gate;
#P newex 289 105 30 196617 gate;
#P newex 226 101 30 196617 gate;
#P newex 158 119 30 196617 gate;
#P newex 595 79 29 196617 == 1;
#N comlet set channel;
#P inlet 618 50 15 0;
#N comlet channel;
#P inlet 594 50 15 0;
#P outlet 198 437 15 0;
#N comlet edit;
#P inlet 122 50 15 0;
#N comlet select plug;
#P inlet 88 50 15 0;
#N comlet sig out;
#P outlet 176 436 15 0;
#N comlet note;
#P inlet 152 50 15 0;
#N comlet controller;
#P inlet 223 50 15 0;
#N comlet prog;
#P inlet 296 50 15 0;
#N comlet touch;
#P inlet 356 50 15 0;
#N comlet bend;
#P inlet 449 50 15 0;
#P newex 477 196 38 196617 % 128;
#P newex 359 139 29 196617 t b i;
#P message 357 213 26 196617 208;
#P newex 357 233 45 196617 pack 1 2;
#P newex 429 192 27 196617 t b i;
#P newex 429 145 42 196617 xbendin;
#P newex 290 192 29 196617 t b i;
#P message 429 213 26 196617 224;
#P newex 429 233 55 196617 pack 1 2 3;
#P message 289 213 26 196617 192;
#P newex 289 233 45 196617 pack 1 2;
#P message 219 213 26 196617 176;
#P newex 219 233 55 196617 pack 1 2 3;
#P newex 166 189 38 196617 unpack;
#P message 140 213 26 196617 144;
#P newex 140 233 55 196617 pack 1 2 3;
#P message 140 261 95 196617 midievent $1 $2 $3;
#P message 176 316 28 196617 open;
#P message 176 294 26 196617 plug;
#N vst~ loaduniqueid 0;
#P newobj 177 344 79 196617 vst~;
#P newex 456 174 35 196617 / 128;
#P comment 7 87 65 196617 All notes off;
#P connect 43 0 40 0;
#P fasten 8 0 7 0 171 209 145 209;
#P connect 7 0 6 0;
#P fasten 18 0 5 0 362 252 145 252;
#P fasten 13 0 5 0 434 254 145 254;
#P connect 6 0 5 0;
#P fasten 9 0 5 0 224 255 145 255;
#P fasten 11 0 5 0 294 255 145 255;
#P fasten 40 0 5 0 36 254 145 254;
#P fasten 28 0 41 0 93 286 148 286;
#P fasten 29 0 42 0 127 305 148 305;
#P fasten 33 0 34 0 600 112 163 112;
#P fasten 8 0 6 1 171 224 167 224;
#P fasten 34 0 8 0 163 176 171 176;
#P connect 41 0 3 0;
#P connect 42 0 4 0;
#P connect 2 0 27 0;
#P fasten 5 0 2 0 145 282 182 282;
#P connect 3 0 2 0;
#P connect 4 0 2 0;
#P fasten 26 0 34 1 157 93 183 93;
#P fasten 8 1 6 2 199 222 189 222;
#P connect 2 1 30 0;
#P fasten 39 0 10 0 231 201 224 201;
#P connect 10 0 9 0;
#P fasten 33 0 35 0 600 96 231 96;
#P connect 35 0 39 0;
#P fasten 39 0 9 1 231 203 246 203;
#P fasten 25 0 35 1 228 88 251 88;
#P fasten 39 1 9 2 259 196 268 196;
#P fasten 33 0 36 0 600 103 294 103;
#P connect 15 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 11 0;
#P connect 36 0 15 0;
#P connect 24 0 36 1;
#P fasten 15 1 11 1 314 216 329 216;
#P fasten 33 0 37 0 600 102 360 102;
#P connect 20 0 19 0;
#P connect 19 0 18 0;
#P connect 37 0 20 0;
#P connect 23 0 37 1;
#P fasten 20 1 18 1 383 196 397 196;
#P fasten 33 0 38 0 600 100 434 100;
#P connect 38 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 13 0;
#P connect 22 0 38 1;
#P fasten 21 0 13 1 482 222 456 222;
#P fasten 16 0 1 0 434 168 461 168;
#P fasten 1 0 13 2 461 220 478 220;
#P fasten 16 0 21 0 434 187 482 187;
#P connect 31 0 33 0;
#P fasten 16 1 33 0 466 169 574 169 574 72 600 72;
#P fasten 32 0 33 1 623 71 619 71;
#P pop;
--- joelsquare  wrote:

>
> Oh dear, my first post, and I'm already stamping
> NEWBIE on my forehead...
>
> Hi.  I'm trying to build a rather complex setup for
> my first attempt on MAX in about 10 years.  I'm
> still getting the hang of MSP objects, so apologies
> in advance for these tragically straightforward
> questions...
>
> I'm dealing with a VST plugin (instrument) within a
> MAX environment.  (To be specific, I'm using Stylus
> RMX as an engine to do sample and REX File
> playback).
>
> My questions are:
>
> A) how the heck do I route MIDI to a VST instrument?
>  I know this should be basic, but I actually can't
> seem to find the way to make it happen.
>
> B) is there any way to have a MAIN SYNC? So any
> VST's that need a sync to function can work? (For
> example, Stylus can automatically have tonnes of
> cool things that work to the master tempo, but it
> needs a MASTER tempo).  Am I overlooking something
> obvious?
>
> I'm a smart guy, but I'm still getting back into the
> groove of this :)
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -Joel
>


Thank you so much, I'll check this out immediately!

I found the easiest solution for what I am doing is to just use MAX to process MIDI, and Rewire it to Plogue. Each of these programs have their strong points and weak points, and, thankfully, they are the same.

I found the easiest solution for what I am doing is to just use MAX to process MIDI, and Rewire it to Plogue.  Each of these programs have their strong points and weak points, and, thankfully, they are the same.

What I mean is that they *aren't* the same...

The patch below, is a Raw MIDI to midievent converter ;)

VST~ sync is currently impossible, dammit - come on Cycling74 Developers !! This is the biggest downside to max if u ask me....as i'm having a hard time finding anything else !

I started the VST~ prayer thread...so I won't blah blah more on this subject ;o)

VST~ sync is currently impossible, dammit - come on Cycling74 Developers !! This is the biggest downside to max if u ask me....as i'm having a hard time finding anything else !
I started the VST~ prayer thread...so I won't blah blah more on this subject ;o)

The whole lack of ability to have a master tempo may defeat the purpose. I think the best solution for me is to use MAX to do my complex MIDI stuf, but then bring it into Plogue, which does MIDI stuff, including sync'ing, with ease.

The whole lack of ability to have a master tempo may defeat the purpose.  I think the best solution for me is to use MAX to do my complex MIDI stuf, but then bring it into Plogue, which does MIDI stuff, including sync'ing, with ease.

I know it's obvious BUT...