Kim Cascone

I am experiencing a problem with 'invisible sliders' on certain VST 

plugs such as the mda bundle -- but not exclusive to these plugs...

it seems that any plugs with this sort of 'list UI' have the same 

problem -- another example are the 'Crazy Ivan' plugs:

- load a VST plug -- for example: the 'mda AutoPan' plug -- into a 

- open the UI display by sending an 'open' message to the VST~ external

- the UI panel opens but none of the sliders are visible

- but I am able to click in the blank space where the slider should 

be and change the parameter value with the 'ghost' slider

- when using the GRM plug 'GRM FreqWarp Stereo VST' and I try to 

change the bands parameter to 128 it opens the Max app splash screen

- scale, interpolation, quality, freq in, freq out are not able to be 

change -- although the pull down menu with the other param values do 

I am wondering if anyone else has experienced these same problems?

OS X 10.4.8
G4 PB 1.67GHz
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Max/MSP 4.6.2
Jitter 1.6.2
Pluggo 3.6.0
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I am experiencing a problem with 'invisible sliders' on certain VST  
plugs such as the mda bundle -- but not exclusive to these plugs...
it seems that any plugs with this sort of 'list UI' have the same  
problem -- another example are the 'Crazy Ivan' plugs:

- load a VST plug  -- for example: the 'mda AutoPan' plug -- into a  
VST~ external
- open the UI display by sending an 'open' message to the VST~ external
- the UI panel opens but none of the sliders are visible
- but I am able to click in the blank space where the slider should  
be and change the parameter value with the 'ghost' slider

- when using the GRM plug 'GRM FreqWarp Stereo VST' and I try to  
change the bands parameter to 128 it opens the Max app splash screen
- scale, interpolation, quality, freq in, freq out are not able to be  
change -- although the pull down menu with the other param values do  
show

invisible-sliders-in-certain-vst-plugs-2

I'm answering this 2 year old post since I just had the same problem and found the solution.

This happens when the C74 plugin support folder gets in your search paths and the pluggo crippled version of vst~ gets used.

invisible sliders in certain vst plugs