Stefan Tiedje

This needs to be a separate subject, but as it happens that my provider 

is shutting down, I need get a new e-mail address anyway. I am just 

wondering, as we had several spammers get into the list/forum somehow, 

in the not so short past, how we could prevent them from being able to 

get the addresses of all who post. (At least I can read the private 

addresses of those who post). Is this problem to be solved in the near 

future? Will new list members be set off at least for a while to be able 

to read e-mail addresses? Has Wallace to acknowledge each new members 

I guess that the amount of new members who subscribe each day isn't 

It is worrying me, and I think the problem is serious...

This needs to be a separate subject, but as it happens that my provider 
is shutting down, I need get a new e-mail address anyway. I am just 
wondering, as we had several spammers get into the list/forum somehow, 
in the not so short past, how we could prevent them from being able to 
get the addresses of all who post. (At least I can read the private 
addresses of those who post). Is this problem to be solved in the near 
future? Will new list members be set off at least for a while to be able 
to read e-mail addresses? Has Wallace to acknowledge each new members 
first post by hand maybe?
I guess that the amount of new members who subscribe each day isn't 
really that big, but who knows...

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jordan-shoes-and-other-spam

I have what might be an ignorant question related to this post. I have unsubscribed from the list and I was hoping that this would reduce the exposure to my personal email address. So I just log in to cycling74.com every day now and check the forums directly from there only. Do you all still see my personal email address in this post? Or does it remain hidden so long as I answer posts from the website-forums only?

The sad state of spam on the Internet today means you will start getting spammed eventually. If you email address isn't stolen from this mailing list, then they'll get it from somewhere else eventually. I guess you can be really, really careful, but it only takes one small mistake that might not even be your fault. Pretty much everything you do online requires an email address, and websites' user/customer lists get compromised all the time. Even if we got C74 to "fix" the problem, they are not the only people you give your email address to, right?

So I think time may be better spent looking into a mail provider that has solid spam filtering. I have been using gmail for a few years and have been mostly very happy with it. I get my share of spam, but it is flagged as such with very high accuracy and kept out of my inbox. It's easy to manage.

If you aren't into webmail, most mail clients have builtin spam filtering or you can get plug-ins. One very nice thing about webmail is you don't need to change your email address when switching providers.

That said, it is a little troublesome that private email addresses are exposed via the mailing list. Perhaps it could always provide "mailing-list-name@cycling74.com" as the from address. However, every mailing list I've ever subscribed to exposes people's private addresses. You want to know who you are communicating with. There's no perfect solution here.

Raja: Your email address is still exposed to people on the mailing list.

Stefan,
The sad state of spam on the Internet today means you will start getting spammed eventually. If you email address isn't stolen from this mailing list, then they'll get it from somewhere else eventually. I guess you can be really, really careful, but it only takes one small mistake that might not even be your fault. Pretty much everything you do online requires an email address, and websites' user/customer lists get compromised all the time. Even if we got C74 to "fix" the problem, they are not the only people you give your email address to, right?

Raja: Your email address is still exposed to people on the mailing list.


Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:59 PM

Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Jordan shoes and other spam

> I have what might be an ignorant question related to this post. I have 

> unsubscribed from the list and I was hoping that this would reduce the 

> exposure to my personal email address. So I just log in to cycling74.com 

> every day now and check the forums directly from there only. Do you all 

> still see my personal email address in this post? Or does it remain hidden 

> so long as I answer posts from the website-forums only?

yes it's visible
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "raja" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:59 PM
Subject: [maxmsp] Re: Jordan shoes and other spam

>
> I have what might be an ignorant question related to this post. I have 
> unsubscribed from the list and I was hoping that this would reduce the 
> exposure to my personal email address. So I just log in to cycling74.com 
> every day now and check the forums directly from there only. Do you all 
> still see my personal email address in this post? Or does it remain hidden 
> so long as I answer posts from the website-forums only?


haha, oh well, i should've known. and to be honest, the real reason i decided to get off the list is that i didn't want any more gory emails from "Phyllis Tushman" ending up in my inbox.

rdwiv@charter.net wrote:
"yes it's visible"

> Do you all still see my personal email address in this post? Or

> does it remain hidden so long as I answer posts from the

I see it, the proof is, you receive it now twice... (Sending it to the 

I don't mind that max users know my mail address, its even appreciated. 

But I don't want spammers to get hold of it...

As long there is a chance that they slip in, its maybe better to hide? 

Or only make it visible to members if I actually answer their posts, or 

if they have sent at least one human approved message?

(I would suspect that spammers don't know anything about Max, and would 

not be able to write a message which makes sense to us, at least untill 

I would not approve a "How can I attach my xxx shoes to my Max burger?" 

One could also make the visibility dependent on an approved going 

raja schrieb:
> Do you all still see my personal email address in this post? Or
> does it remain hidden so long as I answer posts from the
> website-forums only?

I see it, the proof is, you receive it now twice... (Sending it to the 
list and private...)

I don't mind that max users know my mail address, its even appreciated. 
But I don't want spammers to get hold of it...

As long there is a chance that they slip in, its maybe better to hide? 
Or only make it visible to members if I actually answer their posts, or 
if they have sent at least one human approved message?
(I would suspect that spammers don't know anything about Max, and would 
not be able to write a message which makes sense to us, at least untill 
real AI arrives...)

I would not approve a "How can I attach my xxx shoes to my Max burger?" 
question for example...

One could also make the visibility dependent on an approved going 
through the tutorials... ;-)