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I'm resurrecting some patches from years ago (Max 3 days), and have run across some "orphaned" externals.

Lformat doesn't appear to be part of the Lobjects collection anymore (though it still appears in the documentation), and there doesn't seem to be a direct replacement, either. Hunted around some and can't find any mention of this change, nor does there seem to be a direct replacement.

James McCartney's scramble (very useful, btw) seems to be one of the few List Ops not to have been turned into a zl mode. Karlheinz Essl has a scramble replacement (as part of his RTC-lib), but it's an abstraction rather than an external.

Anyone know if there are any externals out there that will replace these two? There used to be a "random-permut" that did more or less the same thing as scramble, but that's long gone too.

lformat-scramble

Scramble is now part of Gary Nelson's Random Library

http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/~gnelson/maxdownloads/downloadmax.htm

Scramble is now part of Gary Nelson's Random Library
http://www.timara.oberlin.edu/~gnelson/maxdownloads/downloadmax.htm


>I'm resurrecting some patches from years ago (Max 3 days), and have 

>Lformat doesn't appear to be part of the Lobjects collection anymore 

>(though it still appears in the documentation), and there doesn't 

>seem to be a direct replacement, either. Hunted around some and 

>can't find any mention of this change, nor does there seem to be a 

>James McCartney's scramble (very useful, btw) seems to be one of the 

>few List Ops not to have been turned into a zl mode. Karlheinz Essl 

>has a scramble replacement (as part of his RTC-lib), but it's an 

>Anyone know if there are any externals out there that will replace 

>these two? There used to be a "random-permut" that did more or less 

>the same thing as scramble, but that's long gone too.

don't know about Lformat, but i still have (and use) scramble, th 

eone by J McCartney, and it works on my max 457, osx.4.10, on a ppc 

http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=objects&id_objet=993&requested=scramble&operateur=AND&id_plateforme=0

>I'm resurrecting some patches from years ago (Max 3 days), and have 
>run across some "orphaned" externals.
>
>Lformat doesn't appear to be part of the Lobjects collection anymore 
>(though it still appears in the documentation), and there doesn't 
>seem to be a direct replacement, either. Hunted around some and 
>can't find any mention of this change, nor does there seem to be a 
>direct replacement.
>
>James McCartney's scramble (very useful, btw) seems to be one of the 
>few List Ops not to have been turned into a zl mode. Karlheinz Essl 
>has a scramble replacement (as part of his RTC-lib), but it's an 
>abstraction rather than an external.
>
>Anyone know if there are any externals out there that will replace 
>these two? There used to be a "random-permut" that did more or less 
>the same thing as scramble, but that's long gone too.

don't know about Lformat, but i still have (and use) scramble,  th 
eone by J McCartney, and it works on my max 457, osx.4.10, on a ppc 
mac....

kasper
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Kasper: Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm on an Intel Mac, so I'm looking for Universal Binaries. You're right, there is an OS X version of the original external.

> but it's an abstraction rather than an external.

Which is a big advantage, you never have to worry about updates for the 

next decades of Max it will work in Max 5, Max 6 and Max 10. It will 

even pass to the new 100 THz poxel processors of the year 2089 without 

I'd always prefer an abstraction over an external even if I've written 

Charles Lyons schrieb:
> but it's an abstraction rather than an external.

Which is a big advantage, you never have to worry about updates for the 
next decades of Max it will work in Max 5, Max 6 and Max 10. It will 
even pass to the new 100 THz poxel processors of the year 2089 without 
problems...

I'd always prefer an abstraction over an external even if I've written 
it myself... ;-)

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> James McCartney's scramble (very useful, btw) seems to be one of the few List Ops not to have been turned into a zl mode. Karlheinz Essl has a scramble replacement (as part of his RTC-lib), but it's an abstraction rather than an external.

I also made a abstraction as part of the CNMAT MMJ Depot:

http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/MAX/downloads/

> James McCartney's scramble (very useful, btw) seems to be one of the few List Ops not to have been turned into a zl mode. Karlheinz Essl has a scramble replacement (as part of his RTC-lib), but it's an abstraction rather than an external.
>

Lformat? Scramble?