Gary Lee Nelson

Here's a quote that was included with a recent reply from Native 

"Max/MSP is not a major 'host' application as I had said. The majors 

example, Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc..."

etc...includes Frooty Loops, Garage Band and some other.

Here's a quote that was included with a recent reply from Native  
Instruments.

"Max/MSP is not a major 'host' application as I had said.  The majors  
are, for
example, Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc..."

Cheers
Gary Lee Nelson
TIMARA Department
Oberlin College
www.timara.oberlin.edu/GaryLeeNelson

maxmsp-is-not-a-major-host-application

> Here's a quote that was included with a recent reply from Native 

> "Max/MSP is not a major 'host' application as I had said. The majors 

> example, Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc..."

> etc...includes Frooty Loops, Garage Band and some other.

no, you are in good company (Csound, Pd, Supercollider...).

Gary Lee Nelson wrote:
> Here's a quote that was included with a recent reply from Native 
> Instruments.
>
> "Max/MSP is not a major 'host' application as I had said.  The majors 
> are, for
> example, Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc..."
>
> etc...includes Frooty Loops, Garage Band and some other.
>
> Are we alone on an island?

no, you are in good company (Csound, Pd, Supercollider...).
marius.


Max/MSP is fun, and while you create pacthes you also build tremendous problem solving skills.

I know PT inside and out, and it is a fabulous composition tool, but it does not have the random number-having, precise human interactivity and flexibility that Max/MSP has.

When they say "host" they mean it in the technical sense, in that a "host application" ferries different forms of info in and out of software and hardware using Rewire and, my friends term, "cables and shit".

Max is a fine host. Native Instruments is a silly name for a company.

They're no doubt referring to DAW-type applications.

As for the desert island, you've got the tools to

build your own raft, jet ski, kava distillery, or

As for the desert island, you've got the tools to
build your own raft, jet ski, kava distillery, or
whatever.


Well seeing as how Max does not support the VST interface

Well seeing as how Max does not support the VST interface
properly, they just may have a point.


"Max/MSP is not a major 'host' application as I had said. The majors are, for example, Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc..."

I think the key word is 'major'. Though I am reading this quote out of the context of whatever thread it is on, I don't think it is a debate of whether or not max is a 'host'.

In that sense, I would have to agree. The above mentioned DAWs have very wide spread use. You can pick up Pro Tools at Guitar Center and Logic at the Apple store.

At the same time, no one is pretending that Max/MSP is trying to compete in that market. Thankfully, Max is in a class of its own. 

I think the key word is 'major'. Though I am reading this quote out of the context of whatever thread it is on, I don't think it is a debate of whether or not max is a 'host'. 

In that sense, I would have to agree. The above mentioned DAWs have very wide spread use. You can pick up Pro Tools at Guitar Center and Logic at the Apple store. 

At the same time, no one is pretending that Max/MSP is trying to compete in that market. Thankfully, Max is in a class of its own. 


Kontakt3 works great as a Max plugin but there is substantial 

breakup in the audio when K3 runs as a separate app with midi control 

vis IAC from Max. They pointed me to a page of possible remedies 

that I haven't yet digested. My issue was that rather than 

addressing the fact that it was their app that wasn't performing, 

On Apr 29, 2008, at 4:58 AM, Nick Inhofe wrote:

> "Max/MSP is not a major 'host' application as I had said. The 

> majors are, for example, Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc..."

> I think the key word is 'major'. Though I am reading this quote out 

> of the context of whatever thread it is on, I don't think it is a 

> debate of whether or not max is a 'host'.

> In that sense, I would have to agree. The above mentioned DAWs have 

> very wide spread use. You can pick up Pro Tools at Guitar Center 

> At the same time, no one is pretending that Max/MSP is trying to 

> compete in that market. Thankfully, Max is in a class of its own.

  Kontakt3 works great as a Max plugin but there is substantial  
breakup in the audio when K3 runs as a separate app with midi control  
vis IAC from Max.  They pointed me to a page of possible remedies  
that I haven't yet digested.  My issue was that rather than  
addressing the fact that it was their app that wasn't performing,  
they passed the buck.

>
> "Max/MSP is not a major 'host' application as I had said. The  
> majors are, for example, Logic, Cubase, Pro Tools, etc..."
>
>
> I think the key word is 'major'. Though I am reading this quote out  
> of the context of whatever thread it is on, I don't think it is a  
> debate of whether or not max is a 'host'.
>
> In that sense, I would have to agree. The above mentioned DAWs have  
> very wide spread use. You can pick up Pro Tools at Guitar Center  
> and Logic at the Apple store.
>
> At the same time, no one is pretending that Max/MSP is trying to  
> compete in that market. Thankfully, Max is in a class of its own.
>
>
>
>


> Max is a fine host. Native Instruments is a silly name for a company.

And Max is a competitor to Reaktor, they probably tend to ignore a 

competitor they can't possibly follow up... ;-)

I guess there are more switching from Reaktor to Max than the other way 

around. Can't imagine why one should do either... ;-)

Eli Stine schrieb:
> Max is a fine host. Native Instruments is a silly name for a company.

And Max is a competitor to Reaktor, they probably tend to ignore a 
competitor they can't possibly follow up... ;-)
I guess there are more switching from Reaktor to Max than the other way 
around. Can't imagine why one should do either... ;-)

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