aengus

I've just installed a RME HDSP MADI card into a PC which has just this

morning had a fresh install of Windows XP SP2 (3Ghz P4 in an Asus

P4C800-E motherboard, Radeon 9600XT graphics card). When I try to run

Max/MSP, the splash screen gets as far as "initializing etable" and

then it crashes, disappearing completely, with no error message

whatsoever. The RME drivers are the most recent from the RME website.

Google reveals no known issues with this set up.

In a quick test, Plogue Bidule seemed to work perfectly with the card.

Has anyone experienced anything similar with Max? Is there any useful

I've just installed a RME HDSP MADI card into a PC which has just this
morning had a fresh install of Windows XP SP2 (3Ghz P4 in an Asus
P4C800-E motherboard, Radeon 9600XT graphics card). When I try to run
Max/MSP, the splash screen gets as far as "initializing etable" and
then it crashes, disappearing completely, with no error message
whatsoever. The RME drivers are the most recent from the RME website.
Google reveals no known issues with this set up.

Has anyone experienced anything similar with Max? Is there any useful
log file I should look at?

maxmsp-wont-start-with-rme-hdsp-madi

Do you have quicktime (alternative) installed?

Neither quicktime nor quicktime alternative is installed.

PS: I have some additional information, which only confirms that the

problem is to do with the audio/dsp side of things: when I delete all

of the ~ objects from the max-startup folder, then max starts ok, but

crashes as soon as a ~ object is placed in a patcher. It seems that

the reason the splash screen reads 'initializing etable' just before

max crashes on startup, is that the ezdac~ object is the first ~

object that max tries to load and it comes alphabetically straight

after the etable object in the max-startup folder.

> Do you have quicktime (alternative) installed?

PS: I have some additional information, which only confirms that the
problem is to do with the audio/dsp side of things: when I delete all
of the ~ objects from the max-startup folder, then max starts ok, but
crashes as soon as a ~ object is placed in a patcher. It seems that
the reason the splash screen reads 'initializing etable' just before
max crashes on startup, is that the ezdac~ object is the first ~
object that max tries to load and it comes alphabetically straight
after the etable object in the max-startup folder.

On 7/28/06, binez0r  wrote:
>
> Do you have quicktime (alternative) installed?
>

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yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.

yep, max won't start.  That error you're getting is because of it I think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.


I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website

before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were

Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who

mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI

> yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.

I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website
before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were
the same as before.

Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who
mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI
before...

On 7/28/06, binez0r  wrote:
>
> yep, max won't start.  That error you're getting is because of it I think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.
>

Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case

anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed

all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them

one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the

Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the

HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels

of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.

> I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website

> before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were

> Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who

> mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI

> > yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.

Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case
anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed
all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them
one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the
Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the
HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels
of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.

On 7/28/06, Aengus Martin  wrote:
> I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website
> before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were
> the same as before.
>
> Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who
> mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI
> before...
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Aengus.
>
> On 7/28/06, binez0r  wrote:
> >
> > yep, max won't start.  That error you're getting is because of it I think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then posting the results.
> >
>
>
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>

Great news ! I was very anxious about that, for my next performance gear 

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> Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case

> anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed

> all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them

> one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the

> Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the

> HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels

> of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.

>> I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website

>> before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were

>> Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who

>> mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI

>> > yep, max won't start. That error you're getting is because of it I 

>> think. I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty 

>> clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then 

Great news ! I was very anxious about that, for my next performance gear 
will be all MADI only...

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

Aengus Martin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just a follow up to my RME HDSP MADI + Max/MSP problems, in case
> anyone has this issue in future: After trying many things, I removed
> all of the drivers from the /ad and /midi folders, and replaced them
> one by one, trying to start max each time. Turns out it was the
> Directsound and MME drivers, which must have some problem with the
> HDSP MADI drivers. Leaving those drivers out, I can output 64-channels
> of audio using the RME ASIO drivers. This, incidentally, is very cool.
>
> Best,
>
> Aengus.
>
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Aengus Martin  wrote:
>> I installed the free version of quicktime from the apple website
>> before I saw your reply. Max still did not start. The symptoms were
>> the same as before.
>>
>> Incidentally, I received a reply from the cycling 74 tech support, who
>> mentioned having seen problems using max/msp with the RME HDSP MADI
>> before...
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Aengus.
>>
>> On 7/28/06, binez0r  wrote:
>> >
>> > yep, max won't start.  That error you're getting is because of it I 
>> think.  I remember max crashing at startup without quicktime pretty 
>> clearly. Why don't you try installing quicktime alternative then 
>> posting the results.
>> >
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ____________________
>> www.am-process.org
>>
>
>


A BIG Thanks to Aengus! It works perfectly. Surprisingly this problem still exists anyway.

Fast forward to 2107, still have to remove ad_mme.mxe64 from the Max drivers folder to be able to start Max with an RME HDSPe installed (in an external enclosure connected via thunderbolt). Max 731 64bit Win10.

Fast forward to 2107,  still have to remove ad_mme.mxe64 from the Max drivers folder to be able to start Max with an RME HDSPe installed (in an external enclosure connected via thunderbolt). Max 731 64bit Win10.


Max/MSP won't start with RME HDSP MADI