Max Mike

I'm currently building a monosynth in max and I'm having trouble with the adsr~ object.

Firstly, I'm trying to create a realistic analogue signal path in my synth which means an oscillator module first and then an Amp EG (ADSR) unit second.

However, is this at all possible with the adsr~ object? I.e. can a cycle~ object come before adsr~ in the signal path, or does adsr~ have to trigger cycle~? (I've used cycle~ here as an oscillator example)

Firstly, I'm trying to create a realistic analogue signal path in my synth which means an oscillator module first and then an Amp EG (ADSR) unit second.  

However, is this at all possible with the adsr~ object?  I.e. can a cycle~ object come before adsr~ in the signal path, or does adsr~ have to trigger cycle~?  (I've used cycle~ here as an oscillator example)

monosynth-adsr-questions

You just output the constantly running cycle~ into a *~ and have the adsr~

go into the right inlet of this *~ to control the amplification...

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Michael Field 

> I'm currently building a monosynth in max and I'm having trouble with the

> Firstly, I'm trying to create a realistic analogue signal path in my synth

> which means an oscillator module first and then an Amp EG (ADSR) unit

> However, is this at all possible with the adsr~ object? I.e. can a cycle~

> object come before adsr~ in the signal path, or does adsr~ have to trigger

> cycle~? (I've used cycle~ here as an oscillator example)

You just output the constantly running cycle~ into a *~ and have the adsr~
go into the right inlet of this *~ to control the amplification...

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Michael Field 
wrote:

>
> Hi there!
>
> I'm currently building a monosynth in max and I'm having trouble with the
> adsr~ object.
>
> Firstly, I'm trying to create a realistic analogue signal path in my synth
> which means an oscillator module first and then an Amp EG (ADSR) unit
> second.
>
> However, is this at all possible with the adsr~ object?  I.e. can a cycle~
> object come before adsr~ in the signal path, or does adsr~ have to trigger
> cycle~?  (I've used cycle~ here as an oscillator example)
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mike
>

Thanks a lot for that - I see now that it's actually right there in the help file too but I missed it - D'oh!

Yes, if you remember the VCA module of the analog signal path. If the 

[cycle~] is the guts of your VCO, and the [adsr~] is the guts of your 

On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Michael Field wrote:

> I'm currently building a monosynth in max and I'm having trouble 

> Firstly, I'm trying to create a realistic analogue signal path in 

> my synth which means an oscillator module first and then an Amp EG 

> However, is this at all possible with the adsr~ object? I.e. can a 

> cycle~ object come before adsr~ in the signal path, or does adsr~ 

> have to trigger cycle~? (I've used cycle~ here as an oscillator 

Yes, if you remember the VCA module of the analog signal path. If the  
[cycle~] is the guts of your VCO, and the [adsr~] is the guts of your  
EG, then [*~] forms your VCA.

>
> Hi there!
>
> I'm currently building a monosynth in max and I'm having trouble  
> with the adsr~ object.
>
> Firstly, I'm trying to create a realistic analogue signal path in  
> my synth which means an oscillator module first and then an Amp EG  
> (ADSR) unit second.
>
> However, is this at all possible with the adsr~ object?  I.e. can a  
> cycle~ object come before adsr~ in the signal path, or does adsr~  
> have to trigger cycle~?  (I've used cycle~ here as an oscillator  
> example)

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I'm having a coupe of amplitude change issues with the adsr~ unit now, i.e. the familiar clicking noises.

Firstly, when holding down a note and adjusting the sustain level in [adsr~] there are a sereis of distorted clicks as the amplitude changes. I know why this is happening, but I can't figure out a way to smooth the changes. Everything I've tried ([poly~, rampsmooth~, line etc)results in a signal that [adsr~] can't understand.

Secondly there is another audible click (more of a thump in this instance) when I start a second envelope. As an example (and remember it's a monosynth!) when I play a note with an amplitude envelope with a long attack, and I press another note interrupting this first envelope the new note thumps loudly first before followiong the envelope set by [adsr~]. Again, I've tried everything I can think of to combat this but to no avail.

I'm having a coupe of amplitude change issues with the adsr~ unit now, i.e. the familiar clicking noises.  

Firstly, when holding down a note and adjusting the sustain level in [adsr~] there are a sereis of distorted clicks as the amplitude changes.  I know why this is happening, but I can't figure out a way to smooth the changes.  Everything I've tried ([poly~, rampsmooth~, line etc)results in a signal that [adsr~] can't understand.

Secondly there is another audible click (more of a thump in this instance) when I start a second envelope.  As an example (and remember it's a monosynth!) when I play a note with an amplitude envelope with a long attack, and I press another note interrupting this first envelope the new note thumps loudly first before followiong the envelope set by [adsr~].  Again, I've tried everything I can think of to combat this but to no avail.

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