Drsbaitso

Hi, I was thinking about purchasing a Muse Receptor to run my own pluggo plugins. I saw that Pluggo Jr. was released on Plugorama and was wondering if this was a sure fire sign that plugins I built myself via pluggo would indeed run on the unit.

muse-receptor-plus-pluggo-runtime

We do not support the Receptor as a host for Pluggo. It might work, but we won't be able to help you with it, nor do we have any plans to extend our support for it. In truth we have not had that many people asking.

Well, that's cool. I just need an explanation for the following link where it says [from last October] that Pluggo Jr. would be available on the Muse's site "some time soon"...

http://www.museresearch.com/press_release_aes2005_new_plugins.php

Does this mean it's in the works? Of course I've looked through Plugorama and they don't Cycling74 listed as one of their developers and couldn't find anything to do with Pluggo Jr....So I am guessing based on your reply that the project for Pluggo Jr...[and invariably the runtime that depends on it] has been scrapped....?

I hope you guys will choose to support it if only to release the runtime in the shape of pluggo jr. It seems like it'll end up being a overlooked as a viable live performance tool coupled with OSC and Pluggo.....

Does this mean it's in the works?  Of course I've looked through Plugorama and they don't Cycling74 listed as one of their developers and couldn't find anything to do with Pluggo Jr....So I am guessing based on your reply that the project for Pluggo Jr...[and invariably the runtime that depends on it] has been scrapped....? 

I hope you guys will choose to support it if only to release the runtime in the shape of pluggo jr.   It seems like it'll end up being a overlooked as a viable live performance tool coupled with OSC and Pluggo.....


For the cost, you'd be better off buying a second laptop for hosting 

your VSTs. Then you could be certain that we would support it, and 

you'd also have a spare in case you accidentally drop something on your 

LCD screen or something. Better yet, get yourself one of those new mac 

For the cost, you'd be better off buying a second laptop for hosting 
your VSTs.  Then you could be certain that we would support it, and 
you'd also have a spare in case you accidentally drop something on your 
LCD screen or something.  Better yet, get yourself one of those new mac 
minis and run it headless.

BTW: Is it possible to use OSC from inside of a Pluggo??

I know it is possible from inside of a VST made with VSTWrappers (Java and

Delphi), but never heard about OSC and Pluggo, sadly.

> I hope you guys will choose to support it if only to release the runtime in

> the shape of pluggo jr. It seems like it'll end up being a overlooked as a

> viable live performance tool coupled with OSC and Pluggo.....

Hi,
BTW: Is it possible to use OSC from inside of a Pluggo??
I know it is possible from inside of a VST made with VSTWrappers (Java and
Delphi), but never heard about OSC and Pluggo, sadly.
Cheers,
Johannes 
> I hope you guys will choose to support it if only to release the runtime in
> the shape of pluggo jr.   It seems like it'll end up being a overlooked as a
> viable live performance tool coupled with OSC and Pluggo.....
>
>
>

> BTW: Is it possible to use OSC from inside of a Pluggo??

It worked last time I tried it (a year or two ago); as I recall the 

plug-in was using MXJ and a Java OSC package wot I wrote.

nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- 

It worked last time I tried it (a year or two ago); as I recall the  
plug-in was using MXJ and a Java OSC package wot I wrote.

   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
www.cassiel.com


It works very well. I use osc to parse filenames to coll objects from a max hub listening for pluggos, for example. Same could be done with a Receptor.

It works very well. I use osc to parse filenames to coll objects from a max hub listening for pluggos, for example.  Same could be done with a Receptor.


I would really like to see Pluggo supported on Muse's receptors... c'mon, how hard can it be? ;). It was mentioned earlier that there was not a lot of people asking for this, but perhaps there's more of a demand than you think. In fact, it's pretty much the critical factor in my decision of weather or not to commit time and money to buy MAX/MSP and learn how to use it. For a performing musician such as my self, the reliability of a laptop/mac-mini/pc is simply unacceptable. Receptors were created for a reason: it would be foolish of Cycling '74 to ignore this device.

> I would really like to see Pluggo supported on Muse's receptors...

> c'mon, how hard can it be? ;). It was mentioned earlier that there

> was not a lot of people asking for this, but perhaps there's more of

> a demand than you think. In fact, it's pretty much the critical

> factor in my decision of weather or not to commit time and money to

> buy MAX/MSP and learn how to use it. For a performing musician such

> as my self, the reliability of a laptop/mac-mini/pc is simply

> unacceptable. Receptors were created for a reason: it would be

> foolish of Cycling '74 to ignore this device.

Did you try it? I remember I got pluggo once running with wine on a 

linux machine, and as far as i know that's what a Receptor is doing.

The copy protected pluggos won't run, but selfmade ones might run. I 

didn't test it too deeply, I just installed it and it seemed to work...

(I don't see a difference between a Laptop running Linux and a Receptor 

running Linux btw. only that you have an almost non existing display 

with the Receptor, a pretty high price tag, and no way to tweak or 

Ben schrieb:
> I would really like to see Pluggo supported on Muse's receptors...
> c'mon, how hard can it be? ;). It was mentioned earlier that there
> was not a lot of people asking for this, but perhaps there's more of
> a demand than you think. In fact, it's pretty much the critical
> factor in my decision of weather or not to commit time and money to
> buy MAX/MSP and learn how to use it. For a performing musician such
> as my self, the reliability of a laptop/mac-mini/pc is simply
> unacceptable. Receptors were created for a reason: it would be
> foolish of Cycling '74 to ignore this device. 

Did you try it? I remember I got pluggo once running with wine on a 
linux machine, and as far as i know that's what a Receptor is doing.
The copy protected pluggos won't run, but selfmade ones might run. I 
didn't test it too deeply, I just installed it and it seemed to work...

(I don't see a difference between a Laptop running Linux and a Receptor 
running Linux btw. only that you have an almost non existing display 
with the Receptor, a pretty high price tag, and no way to tweak or 
destroy the installation... ;-)

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The second I read about the Receptor I was interested in doing something similar (developing my own synths/fx plugins/etc and running them from Receptor so I don't need to bring a computer to shows anymore.

I emailed MUSE several times to ask if this was something that may be possible, but for some reason they were convinced I was asking them if it would run 'cracked' plugins. Truthfully they seemed pretty clueless in general.

Anyway, you can increment the number of people asking about this by 1 more. :)

The second I read about the Receptor I was interested in doing something similar (developing my own synths/fx plugins/etc and running them from Receptor so I don't need to bring a computer to shows anymore. 

>Anyway, you can increment the number of people asking about this by 1 more. :)

Muse Receptor plus Pluggo Runtime