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I need to create a patch. There will be 5 number coming at the same time. I need to compare those 5 numbers and make decision for 5 different results. For example, if over 3 of those 5 numbers are below 100 I need to run "spring mode". If over 3 of those 5 numbers are between 100~200 then I need to run "summer mode"....etc. If those 5 numbers are all in different range (I set four different ranges which is below 100, 100~200, 200~300, above 300) then I just don't do anything.

The first problem is I have two methods of counting those 5 numbers (as you can see in my patch logical part). One is just i++ method, the other one is using counter object. I don't know which one is better. If I use i++ method, when I try to rest 0 to i every time I finish compare those 5 numbers it will cause "stack over flow" error.

The second problem is I don't know how to reset i or counter to 0 every time I finish comparing those 5 numbers. Because those 5 numbers come in at the same time so when next 5 numbers come in again, my counter and i are supposed to set to 0 already.

I hope I can get some help on this one. I am very appreciate any advice. Again, I am newbie and this is supposed to be a very simple patch.........just I don't know what's going on.

I need to create a patch. There will be 5 number coming at the same time. I need to compare those 5 numbers and make decision for 5 different results. For example, if over 3 of those 5 numbers are below 100 I need to run "spring mode". If over 3 of those 5 numbers are between 100~200 then I need to run "summer mode"....etc. If those 5 numbers are all in different range (I set four different ranges which is below 100, 100~200, 200~300, above 300) then I just don't do anything. 

The first problem is I have two methods of counting those 5 numbers (as you can see in my patch logical part). One is just i++ method, the other one is using counter object. I don't know which one is better. If I use i++ method, when I try to rest 0 to i every time I finish compare those 5 numbers it will cause "stack over flow" error. 

The second problem is I don't know how to reset i or counter to 0 every time I finish comparing those 5 numbers. Because those 5 numbers come in at the same time so when next 5 numbers come in again, my counter and i are supposed to set to 0 already. 

I hope I can get some help on this one. I am very appreciate any advice. Again, I am newbie and this is supposed to be a very simple patch.........just I don't know what's going on. 

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These kind of things are a PITA in Max. You need lots of objects to do something that's actually quite simple.

I made a patch with a js in it, hope that's ok with you.

Note that the patch is quite specific (input needs to be between -100 and 499), but you can probably change things like number of seasons easily yourself.

and here's the js, save as counter.js in the same directory:

These kind of things are a PITA in Max. You need lots of objects to do something that's actually quite simple.
I made a patch with a js in it, hope that's ok with you.
Note that the patch is quite specific (input needs to be between -100 and 499), but you can probably change things like number of seasons easily yourself.
Good luck!

autowatch = 1;
outlets = 1;
var store = [0,0,0,0,0];

function bang()
{
	for (var i=4; i > -1; i--)
	{
		if (store[i] >= 3)
		{
			outlet(0,i+1);
			break;
		}
	}
	store = [0,0,0,0,0];
}
function inputValue(v)
{
	store[v]++;
}


>this is supposed to be a very simple patch.

Famous last words. You were trying for something like:

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 | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno

At 2:32 AM -0600 5/2/07, UCDMSRA wrote:
>this is supposed to be a very simple patch.

-- 
Chris Muir           | "There are many futures and only one status quo.
cbm@well.com         |  This is why conservatives mostly agree,
http://www.xfade.com |  and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno


> These kind of things are a PITA in Max. You need lots of objects to 

> do something that's actually quite simple.

Is my version below a lots of objects? ;-)

For generalising the rule to "if more than half of the elements is in a 

range" it needed only two objects more...

> I made a patch with a js in it, hope that's ok with you.

To name a js "counter" is asking for trouble and a very bad idea for

advice to newbies, it might run them into seemingly unsolvable problems,

suddenly the counter object doesn't work anymore...

Better rename it to something like "maxlist.counter.js"

Bas van der Graaff schrieb:
> These kind of things are a PITA in Max. You need lots of objects to 
> do something that's actually quite simple.

Is my version below a lots of objects? ;-)
For generalising the rule to "if more than half of the elements is in a 
range" it needed only two objects more...

To name a js "counter" is asking for trouble and a very bad idea for
advice to newbies, it might run them into seemingly unsolvable problems,
suddenly the counter object doesn't work anymore...

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Your patch is quite beautiful, if i may say so. But making patches like these takes me much more time than writing a js which does the same. The 16 objects aren't 'a lot', but it's unthinkable (for me) that one could create only those 16 straightaway. In js, those 9 lines require much less thought, and don't even require testing. But maybe that's just a difference in experience...

And of course you are correct, naming a js isn't the bestest of ideas (I never use the counter object myself). But I just tried putting it in a patch with a counter object, there doesn't be a problem amongst the two of them. When do these things conflict?

Thank you and thanks for everybody. I have a good lesson of Max !!! Your patches are all work and so awesome. I don't know how to say but I know I still need more and more time (don't know how much more) to become your level.

js is also very nice but it makes me feel so sad because I don't know how to write java (maybe I should say I don't know anything about programming). I only have "a little bit" visual basic programming experiences and it really doesn't mean anything. God I think I need to start from the scratch if I want to play Max/MSP good.

I never think I need to learn programming as an artist......... 3 years ago I really HATE programming but I know it is time to face it. can anybody give me some advice if I need to learn programming stuff lie java, c++ or something? maybe flash motion script?

Thank you and thanks for everybody. I have a good lesson of Max !!! Your patches are all work and so awesome. I don't know how to say but I know I still need more and more time (don't know how much more) to become your level. 

js is also very nice but it makes me feel so sad because I don't know how to write java (maybe I should say I don't know anything about programming). I only have "a little bit" visual basic programming experiences and it really doesn't mean anything. God I think I need to start from the scratch if I want to play Max/MSP good. 

> Your patch is quite beautiful, if i may say so. But making patches

> like these takes me much more time than writing a js which does the

> same. The 16 objects aren't 'a lot', but it's unthinkable (for me)

> that one could create only those 16 straightaway. In js, those 9

> lines require much less thought, and don't even require testing. But

> maybe that's just a difference in experience...

For me js would take more time, and thats definitely a difference in 

experience... (and finding a patch solution is more fun for me, its a 

bit like sports, dive into a thread which is running for days and still 

> And of course you are correct, naming a js isn't the bestest of ideas

> (I never use the counter object myself). But I just tried putting it

> in a patch with a counter object, there doesn't be a problem amongst

> the two of them. When do these things conflict?

Max seems to try to be intelligent and assumes extensions, if they are 

not typed in. But this depends on what is found first. If the wrong one 

is found first it will conflict, if the correct one is found first, you 

I mad an update to my previous solution by the way, it will be able to 

deal with more than 3 zones (unlimited) and does only need 1 object more...

This is recursive and a bit less easy to understand, than the previous 

one, but thats the nature of recursion, it might help to get into 

Its prepared to be turned into a real abhaXion...

Bas van der Graaff schrieb:
> Your patch is quite beautiful, if i may say so. But making patches
> like these takes me much more time than writing a js which does the
> same. The 16 objects aren't 'a lot', but it's unthinkable (for me)
> that one could create only those 16 straightaway. In js, those 9
> lines require much less thought, and don't even require testing. But
> maybe that's just a difference in experience...

For me js would take more time, and thats definitely a difference in 
experience... (and finding a patch solution is more fun for me, its a 
bit like sports, dive into a thread which is running for days and still 
find a more elegant solution... ;-)

> And of course you are correct, naming a js isn't the bestest of ideas
> (I never use the counter object myself). But I just tried putting it
> in a patch with a counter object, there doesn't be a problem amongst
> the two of them. When do these things conflict?

Max seems to try to be intelligent and assumes extensions, if they are 
not typed in. But this depends on what is found first. If the wrong one 
is found first it will conflict, if the correct one is found first, you 
won't notice...

I mad an update to my previous solution by the way, it will be able to 
deal with more than 3 zones (unlimited) and does only need 1 object more...
This is recursive and a bit less easy to understand, than the previous 
one, but thats the nature of recursion, it might help to get into 
patching recursion...

> I never think I need to learn programming as an artist......... 3

> years ago I really HATE programming but I know it is time to face it.

> can anybody give me some advice if I need to learn programming stuff

> lie java, c++ or something? maybe flash motion script?

With Max you don't need to get into line level programming, though I 

would call Max a programming language. I started with Modula II long ago 

and never did too much of other text based languages, though I can do 

UCDMSRA schrieb:
> I never think I need to learn programming as an artist......... 3
> years ago I really HATE programming but I know it is time to face it.
> can anybody give me some advice if I need to learn programming stuff
> lie java, c++ or something? maybe flash motion script?

With Max you don't need to get into line level programming, though I 
would call Max a programming language. I started with Modula II long ago 
and never did too much of other text based languages, though I can do 
it. I prefer patching mostly...

Newbie with simple max pathcer need help !!!