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I have a patch containing several bpatchers. I want to open the patches inside the bpatchers in presentation mode but it doesn't seem apparent to me how to do this?

I have searched the forum and found some comments about checking the "open in presentation" box on the bpatchers inspector but in my bpatchers inspector there is not this option??

I think I must be missing something obvious!

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If you open the patch itself that you want to load into a bpatcher, then open the patcher inspector (shift+apple+i) then check the open in presentation mode box in there it will work.

It also helps to have the top left corner of the presentation at the very top left of the window as well, it means you won't have to mess around with the offset message to get the bpatcher to the right size.

sorry if this is sounding dumb but i just can't see this "open in presentation" box anywhere. I have checked the inspector of the bpatcher, opened the patch as a sub-patcher and checked that inspector and cannot see it in either?

It sounds like you're opening the patcher as a sub-patch inside a larger patch. Try making a new patcher window, then paste the contents of the sub-patch into it, and save it.

Now as long as that patch is saved into the search path of your main patch you can use it as an abstraction. You can just type 'n' and write in the name of the patch as if it is a max object.

If you open up your new patch (that used to be a sub-patch) and press shift+apple+i it opens the patcher inspector, and there is a box that says open in presentation mode. When checked, it opens the presentation of the patch if loaded into a bpatcher.

It sounds like you're opening the patcher as a sub-patch inside a larger patch.  Try making a new patcher window, then paste the contents of the sub-patch into it, and save it.  

Now as long as that patch is saved into the search path of your main patch you can use it as an abstraction.  You can just type 'n' and write in the name of the patch as if it is a max object.

If you open up your new patch (that used to be a sub-patch) and press shift+apple+i it opens the patcher inspector, and there is a box that says open in presentation mode.  When checked, it opens the presentation of the patch if loaded into a bpatcher.

All bpatcher I use have checked "open in presentation". I can assure you that it exists

So here is the issue I am having in Max 8. I believe I have done this before, but I've unfortunately gone long periods of time between using Max and end up having to refigure out stuff each time.

I created a patcher which I encapsulated into a patcher and saved (then tried saving as a new patcher to be sure that didn't change the behavior I was seeing). In presentation mode, I have a spectrograph that I want to be visible when the patcher is used in another patch. Looks good (see top part of screenshot) in the patcher window, but in the patch in which I include it, it is the slim 20px tall patcher representation. How do I get it to show what I am seeing in the presentation mode?

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So just figured out that I can add a bpatcher object to my "parent" patcher, and set the file to the patcher for which I want to show the UI for. Is there a way that I can have the imported patcher always show as a bpatcher? (i.e. if I drag the file to the parent patcher...) (or maybe there isn't and this is why the vsynth bpatchers for example are "imported" as bpatchers by way of the vs_modules bpatcher?)

So just figured out that I can add a bpatcher object to my "parent" patcher, and set the file to the patcher for which I want to show the UI for. Is there a way that I can have the imported patcher always show as a bpatcher? (i.e. if I drag the file to the parent patcher...)  (or maybe there isn't and this is why the vsynth bpatchers for example are "imported" as bpatchers by way of the vs_modules bpatcher?)

When you drag and drop, it creates a [patcher]. If you want to transform it to a [bpatcher], you can use the strange "Transform menu" that appears when you hover on the left border of the [patcher] object. Choose transform -> patcher to bpatcher. That works only when your main patch has been saved at least once.

Thanks Jean-Francois! Found the menu you were talking about ... I had seen it earlier and thought it was some sort of play button. :-) I'm still trying to get my head around doing stuff in Max; as a software engineer, I'm used to coding whatever I want, so finding my way around this UI with some of its non-obvious functionality is a bit of a challenge. Fun punctuated by long bouts of confusion and head-scratching. :-)

Thanks Jean-Francois! Found the menu you were talking about ... I had seen it earlier and thought it was some sort of play button. :-) I'm still trying to get my head around doing stuff in Max; as a software engineer, I'm used to coding whatever I want, so finding my way around this UI with some of its non-obvious functionality is a bit of a challenge.  Fun punctuated by long bouts of confusion and head-scratching. :-)

My preferred way is to create a [bpatcher] directly, with just the name of the subpatch as argument in the Inspector (when the subpatch is stored in the same folder as the main patch).

transform menu is very cool, the next logical step after de/encapsulate.

back in max 4 times you could edit the bpatcher´s inspector to allow drag and drop to set the file path. 

editing the inspectors is something i really miss in later versions. :) i also have implemented copy and paste functions and things like that into some of them.


transform menu is very cool, the next logical step after de/encapsulate.

back in max 4 times you could edit the bpatcher´s inspector to allow drag and drop to set the file path. 

editing the inspectors is something i really miss in later versions. :) i also have implemented copy and paste functions and things like that into some of them.


btw. as soon as you have multiple bpatcher files which are all of the same size, you have a good reason to use the traditional way (create bpatcher object, assign file in inspector, adjust size, copy the bpatcher, assing another file...)

Got it, thanks guys -- I have to say the forum is one of the most responsive forums I've used. :)

I had a similar situation and I clicked and unclicked 'embed patcher in parent' and is seemed to be only then that it actually registered that it was meant to be in presentation mode. not really sure what happened there.

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