dirk

Maybe you can help me. I could not find something helpful with the search funktion.

I use an existing CC Patch and I want to modify it in the parameter Window, so i can use it perfectly with my external Synths.

1. For my Jupiter4, i want to use the Noise On and Off, it says Value 0 ist on and Value 1 ist off. Those 2 Values i programmed already. I just want to invert that values in the Parameter Window. But how?

2. Also for the Jupiter4, i want to Label the Values in: Off, Saw, Square, PW, so i can see this in the Push2 Controller, at least in the patch itself. Posible?

3. For my Moog Minitaur. For example with the glide type: it says: Value 0 - 42 (LCR), 43 - 84 (LCT), 85 - 127 (EXP). So that means i want on the Poti 3 Steps: LCR, LCT, EXP. But how?

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What do You mean by "an existing CC patch" ?

Post it compressed, so one could try to help You.

What do You mean by "an existing CC patch" ?
Post it compressed, so one could try to help You.


I use the cc8 patch. And this patch I want to edit.

I am sorry, but I don't know of something named CC8 patch.

Honestly, I am really willing to help You, but if You are so lazy

to even post the patch You want to help to edit, I will let it be...

I am sorry, but I don't know of something named CC8 patch.
Honestly, I am really willing to help You, but if You are so lazy
to even post the patch You want to help to edit, I will let it be...


Hello Source Audio. Sorry I was not to lazy, i was working and not near by my computer. If you want you could still help me. Would be nice.

Hi Dirk, I had a brief look in the amxd file.

As first, it is not a max patch, but a Live Device.

So one has to hack it. But that does not matter really.

The thing is, I am not using Live at all, so I might miss some things which could be Live specific...

The fact is , Controlchange8.amxd is a simple 8 channel CC sender, where You select which CC number

You want to send, and then send the Value via Dial. There is no port or midi channel selection

available, so it makes me wonder how do You route this 8 CC messages to Your external synths?

Do You set Your external devices to receive on the specific midi channels, on same midi port, so You are limited to that?

If You wish to hack this device to do what You want, one could do it better alltogether,

or better say make it all new, adjusted to Your specific needs.

I will be glad to help You to do that, if You provide exact detail on what has to be sent,

The fact that You post Your question on Max forums, makes me assume that You are programming in Max

and can do this work yourself, with whatever help needed...

Hi Dirk, I had a brief look in the amxd file.
As first, it is not a max patch, but a Live Device.
So one has to hack it. But that does not matter really.
The thing is, I am not using Live at all, so I might miss some things which could be Live specific...
The fact is , Controlchange8.amxd is a simple 8 channel CC sender, where You select which CC number
You want to send, and then send the Value via Dial. There is no port or midi channel selection
available, so it makes me wonder how do You route this 8 CC messages to Your external synths?
Do You set Your external devices to receive on the specific midi channels, on same midi port, so You are limited to that?
If You wish to hack this device to do what You want, one could do it better alltogether,
or better say make it all new, adjusted to Your specific needs.
I will be glad to help You to do that, if You provide exact detail on what has to be sent,
and on which midi channel.
-----------
The fact that You post Your question on Max forums, makes me assume that You are programming in Max
and can do this work yourself, with whatever help needed...


Here is a simple example of LCR, LCT, EXP Values for Moog Miniature, just CC numer is unknown

Hi source code. I come in my studio tomorrow so that means I can not look in the patch you ve sended till tomorrow.

I give you an overview what I want in total:

For every ext. Synth ( per Synth 1 Midi ch, and 1 Port on my midiinterface ) i want to have fixed parts of the synth controllable over the push2 and the cc8 patch. For example I have a cc8 with filter relevant cc and a cc8 with OSZE relevant cc. Than I want to switch between those cc8 with the blue hand.

For so far I figured out everything I need for this. Also point 2 in the beginning Post from me.

I only miss point 1 and 3 from the beginning post.

And how to enter values like explained in3. But possible that 3 is in explained in your patch.

Hi source code. I come in my studio tomorrow so that means I can not look in the patch you ve sended till tomorrow.
I give you an overview what I want in total:
For every ext. Synth ( per Synth 1 Midi ch, and 1 Port on my midiinterface ) i want to have fixed parts of the synth controllable over the push2 and the cc8 patch. For example I have a cc8 with filter relevant cc and a cc8 with OSZE relevant cc. Than I want to switch between those cc8 with the blue hand.
For so far I figured out everything I need for this. Also point 2 in the beginning Post from me.
I only miss point 1 and 3 from the beginning post.
So how to invert values (1 )
And how to enter values like explained in3. But possible that 3 is in explained in your patch.
Greetz


Yes in the patch I posted Live Dial is replaced by umenu containing 3 items = LCR, LCT, EXP

so that when You select LCR umenu outputs 0, on LCT 1 and on EXP 2.

At the output there is {sel 0 1 2} and for each outlet a value placed in range that needs to be sent.

One thing that one has to take care here is Parameter and sripting names etc.

So if You want to replace for example Dial 1 with something else, You have to give it the same Automation Name.

It does not matter what You use, umenu, button ...

Now inverting 0 & 1 is just as easy, You can use live.text as toggle, it can be inverted.

Or if You use a simple toggle, insert {expr $i1-$i1*2 + 1} to invert it.

If You have any difficulties implementing this, just post here.

Yes in the patch I posted Live Dial is replaced by umenu containing 3 items = LCR, LCT, EXP
so that when You select LCR umenu outputs 0, on LCT 1 and on EXP 2.
At the output there is {sel 0 1 2} and for each outlet a value placed in range that needs to be sent.
It is really simple.
One thing that one has to take care here is Parameter  and sripting names etc.
So if You want to replace for example Dial 1 with something else, You have to give it the same Automation Name.
It does not matter what You use, umenu, button ...
Now inverting 0 & 1 is just as easy, You can use live.text as toggle, it can be inverted.
 Or if You use a simple toggle, insert {expr $i1-$i1*2 + 1} to invert it.
If You have any difficulties implementing this, just post here.
here are both versions:


Hi Source Code. So I started everything new, that Tool me a while. Your code for inverting 0 and 1 works. Do you know the code for inverting more numbers for example 0 1 2 3?

Unfortunately I did not come to the Moog synth till now so I haven't checked this so far.

Hi Source Code. So I started everything new, that Tool me a while. Your code for inverting 0 and 1 works. Do you know the code for inverting more numbers for example 0 1 2 3?
Unfortunately I did not come to the Moog synth till now so I haven't checked this so far.

Hi Dirk, You can easily invert any amount of numbers using scale object.

{scale 0 127 127 0} here incoming 0,1,2 .. 127 will get out as 127,126,125 .. 0

Hi Dirk, You can easily invert any amount of numbers using scale object.
So You turn the values upside down
{scale 0 127 127 0}   here incoming 0,1,2 .. 127 will get out as 127,126,125 .. 0


Hi source code. Today I made it in the studio. It took me a while but now I understand it. Especially the sel, scale and the outlet was very helpful. Now I can use the cc s and it does not matter how the manufacturer creates it.

One more question. I have now per ext synth, 1 midi track with a couple of cc patches with designated parameters. Is it possible to combine those cc patches and perform something, to send the actual status from all parameters in all ccs from one midi track. So I can get something like a unit sound in the ext synth?

Hi source code. Today I made it in the studio. It took me a while but now I understand it. Especially the sel, scale and the outlet was very helpful. Now I can use the cc s and it does not matter how the manufacturer creates it. 

as You say "I have now per ext synth, 1 midi track with a couple of cc patches with designated parameters"

You probably mean the patch (M4L Device ) You sent with 8 dials ?

You know that I don't use Live at all, so someone else will hopefully answer Your questions

But there must be some kind of automation, or snapshots which You can send at some point in the song

You must learn Live if you want to use it seriously, so You would know how to automate and recall

stuff in tracks, devices, plugins and so on.

What You want ( set one synth sound with many parameters) could be done simply by storing that sound

as a preset in external synth and recalling it from Live using midi program change.

If You dislike that idea, You have to use Live with it's possibilities to make all the "Patches"

store and output their values when You want so.

In Max it would be easy to collect 8 CCs and their Values, form presets from them and

send them in one go to the synth, I would be glad to help you about that, but integration of it

Hi Dirk,
as You say "I have now per ext synth, 1 midi track with a couple of cc patches with designated parameters"
You probably mean the patch (M4L Device ) You sent with 8 dials ?
You know that I don't use Live at all, so someone else will hopefully answer Your questions
about Live.
But there must be some kind of automation, or snapshots which You can send at some point in the song
timeline, I really don't know.
You must learn Live if you want to use it seriously, so You would know how to automate and recall
stuff in tracks, devices, plugins and so on.
What You want ( set one synth sound with many parameters) could be done simply by storing that sound
as a preset in external synth and recalling it from Live using midi program change.
If You dislike that idea, You have to use Live with it's possibilities to make all the "Patches"
store and output their values when You want so.
In Max it would be easy to collect 8 CCs and their Values, form presets from them and
send them in one go to the synth, I would be glad to help you about that, but integration of it
into Live, would be Your job...
