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Help appreciated to stop endless recursion of a patcher while opening:

If I open my following patch the patcher "Zufallszahlen" opens in endless recursion until Max breaks down. what is the reason for this? is there any possibilty to stop this and open the patch without the recursion. In text mode I can open but it is difficult to identify something and change it.

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Help appreciated to stop endless recursion of a patcher while opening:
If I open my following patch the patcher "Zufallszahlen" opens in endless recursion until Max breaks down. what is the reason for this? is there any possibilty to stop this and open the patch without the recursion. In text mode I can open but it is difficult to identify something and change it. 

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patcher-opens-in-endless-recursion

Your patch contains a number of third party externals or abstractions I do not have, and therefor quite a bit is missing. However, that could be the solution to your problem. When you exclude all third party stuff from the search path, does it still create problems? If not, try bringing back in one after the other, and see when it starts misbehaving.

thanks jvkr. I just found a backuped version of the patch before my work yesterday. So I do not loose the work of same days. I will check the path again and see which step causes the missbehaving.

patcher opens in endless recursion