Marcos

What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make the interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding...Am I missing something obvious?

presentation-mode-question

There are two different sizes involved. You can make the panel really small in edit mode.

Yeah I know that, just didn't know if there was another way. Thanks!

>What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation 

>mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things 

>off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make 

>the interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding...Am 

You may not have realized yet that objects don't need to be the same 

*size* in presentation mode versus patching mode. So that large 

panel that you want in presentation mode can be made extremely small 

and tucked away on the side somewhere while in patcher mode.

As a good example, take a look at the X.FM~ patch, in Extras/Examples 

Overview - look at in its native presentation mode, then toggle into 

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At 8:46 PM -0400 4/23/08, marcos wrote:
>What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation 
>mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things 
>off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make 
>the interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding...Am 
>I missing something obvious?

You may not have realized yet that objects don't need to be the same 
*size* in presentation mode versus patching mode.  So that large 
panel that you want in presentation mode can be made extremely small 
and tucked away on the side somewhere while in patcher mode.

As a good example, take a look at the X.FM~ patch, in Extras/Examples 
Overview - look at in its native presentation mode, then toggle into 
patcher mode and see what happens.

Dan
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Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode? Seems like something that would be important. I know I'm missing it (assuming it doesn't exist).

> Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode? 

> Seems like something that would be important. I know I'm missing it 

Make it yourself. System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard 

Shortcuts, then hit the + sign to add it. ;)

> Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode?  
> Seems like something that would be important. I know I'm missing it  
> (assuming it doesn't exist).

Make it yourself.  System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard  
Shortcuts, then hit the + sign to add it.  ;)

There's a file, called maxinterface.json, which defines the menus. If you're careful you can change the Max interface pretty thoroughly.

It's fairly easy to suss out what's going on. It's pretty easy to add key commands.

There's a file, called maxinterface.json, which defines the menus. If you're careful you can change the Max interface pretty thoroughly. 

Quote: Dan wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:47

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> > Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode? 

> > Seems like something that would be important. I know I'm missing it 

> Make it yourself. System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard 

> Shortcuts, then hit the + sign to add it. ;)

Wow I didn't know about that functionality! Is that new with Leopard? Thanks for that Dan!

Quote: Dan wrote on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:47
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> > Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode?  
> > Seems like something that would be important. I know I'm missing it  
> > (assuming it doesn't exist).
>
> Make it yourself.  System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard  
> Shortcuts, then hit the + sign to add it.  ;)
>
> d
>
>
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Wow I didn't know about that functionality! Is that new with Leopard? Thanks for that Dan!


> Wow I didn't know about that functionality! Is that new with 

Nope, it was in Tiger at least. I use it all the time. For Max, I 

would edit the JSON as Chris suggested -- that way you won't lose your 

mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a system update does 

>
> Wow I didn't know about that functionality! Is that new with  
> Leopard? Thanks for that Dan!

Nope, it was in Tiger at least.  I use it all the time.  For Max, I  
would edit the JSON as Chris suggested -- that way you won't lose your  
mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a system update does  
it for you.


Quote: Dan wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 08:05

> > Wow I didn't know about that functionality! Is that new with 

> Nope, it was in Tiger at least. I use it all the time. For Max, I 

> would edit the JSON as Chris suggested -- that way you won't lose your 

> mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a system update does 

Well editing that file was almost as easy as doing it at the system level. Thanks again for the tips guys!

Quote: Dan wrote on Thu, 24 April 2008 08:05
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> >
> > Wow I didn't know about that functionality! Is that new with  
> > Leopard? Thanks for that Dan!
>
>
>
> Nope, it was in Tiger at least.  I use it all the time.  For Max, I  
> would edit the JSON as Chris suggested -- that way you won't lose your  
> mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a system update does  
> it for you.
>
>
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Well editing that file was almost as easy as doing it at the system level. Thanks again for the tips guys!


On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Dan Winckler wrote:

> For Max, I would edit the JSON as Chris suggested -- that way you 

> won't lose your mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a 

I would also keep a version of your edited file somewhere fairly safe. 

For example, I have a file mymaxinterface.json that lives inside the 

This way I can run a diff tool to reconcile changes between versions 

On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:05 AM, Dan Winckler wrote:
> For Max, I would edit the JSON as Chris suggested -- that way you  
> won't lose your mappings if you trash your com.apple.* prefs or a  
> system update does it for you.

I would also keep a version of your edited file somewhere fairly safe.  
For example, I have a file mymaxinterface.json that lives inside the  
Max5 directory.

This way I can run a diff tool to reconcile changes between versions  
of Max.

Chris Muir
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http://www.xfade.com

> What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation

> mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things

> off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make the

> interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding...Am I

This worked in the past already, include the panel in the background, 

lock background... Then it doesn't get too much in the way...

It was always a mystery for me why the help patches didn't do that. It 

makes copying parts of help patches a night mare...

marcos schrieb:
> What If I want a Panel (or anything) to be visible in Presentation
> mode , but not in patcher mode? Right now I am dragging those things
> off to the side in patcher mode. Sometimes you use things to make the
> interface pretty, but just get in the way for actual coding...Am I
> missing something obvious?

This worked in the past already, include the panel in the background, 
lock background... Then it doesn't get too much in the way...
It was always a mystery for me why the help patches didn't do that. It 
makes copying parts of help patches a night mare...

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> Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode?

> Seems like something that would be important. I know I'm missing it

You can get into edit mode with a shortcut, but the better strategy now 

is to open an extra view, one in presentation and one in patching mode. 

All your changes will be reflected immediately...

This is cool, but you have to know about it... So much to learn...

David Huff schrieb:
> Is there a keyboard shortcut to go in and out of Presentation Mode?
> Seems like something that would be important. I know I'm missing it
> (assuming it doesn't exist). 

You can get into edit mode with a shortcut, but the better strategy now 
is to open an extra view, one in presentation and one in patching mode. 
All your changes will be reflected immediately...
This is cool, but you have to know about it... So much to learn...

Presentation Mode Question