Bertrand Fraysse

The new timing syntax is really great but I've got a problem.

How can I make a metro that send a bang every 4 whole notes ?

It's good to be able to go as fast as 128n but sometimes a very slow metro is useful too.

I just got an idea, using a counter. I set the metro to 1n and I had a counter just after it that counts 4 bang.

But it would be nice to be able to send metro something like 1/4n for 4 whole notes...

How can I make a metro that send a bang every 4 whole notes ?
It's good to be able to go as fast as 128n but sometimes a very slow metro is useful too.

I just got an idea, using a counter. I set the metro to 1n and I had a counter just after it that counts 4 bang.
Maybe there's some other nicer ways.

But it would be nice to be able to send metro something like 1/4n for 4 whole notes...


problem-time-value-syntax

What you want is probably a transport : check the inside of the Global 

Transport extra, under the Extras menus (cmd or ctrl-click into the 

interface, then cmd or ctrl-click onto the "view" toggle object inside 

On 27 mai 08, at 16:46, Bertrand Fraysse wrote:

> The new timing syntax is really great but I've got a problem.

> How can I make a metro that send a bang every 4 whole notes ?

> It's good to be able to go as fast as 128n but sometimes a very slow 

> I just got an idea, using a counter. I set the metro to 1n and I had 

> a counter just after it that counts 4 bang.

> But it would be nice to be able to send metro something like 1/4n 

What you want is probably a transport : check the inside of the Global  
Transport extra, under the Extras menus (cmd or ctrl-click into the  
interface, then cmd or ctrl-click onto the "view" toggle object inside  
the unlocked patch).

>
> The new timing syntax is really great but I've got a problem.
>
> Taking an example :
>
> How can I make a metro that send a bang every 4 whole notes ?
> It's good to be able to go as fast as 128n but sometimes a very slow  
> metro is useful too.
>
> I just got an idea, using a counter. I set the metro to 1n and I had  
> a counter just after it that counts 4 bang.
> Maybe there's some other nicer ways.
>
> But it would be nice to be able to send metro something like 1/4n  
> for 4 whole notes...


16nd - Dotted sixteenth note - 180 ticks 

16nt - Sixteenth note triplet - 80 ticks 

32nd - Dotted thirty-second note - 90 ticks 

32nt - thirty-second-note triplet - 40 ticks 

64nd - Dotted sixty-fourth note - 45 ticks 

128n - One-hundred-twenty-eighth note - 15 ticks

What about more than a whole note (or a dotted whole) ?

1nd - Dotted whole note - 2880 ticks 
1n - Whole note - 1920 ticks 
1nt - Whole note triplet - 1280 ticks 
2nd - Dotted half note - 1440 ticks 
2n - Half note - 960 ticks 
2nt - Half note triplet - 640 ticks 
4nd - Dotted quarter note - 720 ticks 
4n - Quarter note - 480 ticks 
4nt - Quarter note triplet - 320 ticks 
8nd - Dotted eighth note - 360 ticks 
8n - Eighth note - 240 ticks 
8nt - Eighth note triplet - 160 ticks 
16nd - Dotted sixteenth note - 180 ticks 
16n - Sixteenth note - 120 ticks 
16nt - Sixteenth note triplet - 80 ticks 
32nd - Dotted thirty-second note - 90 ticks 
32n - thirty-second note - 60 ticks 
32nt - thirty-second-note triplet - 40 ticks 
64nd - Dotted sixty-fourth note - 45 ticks 
64n - Sixty-fourth note - 30 ticks 
128n - One-hundred-twenty-eighth note - 15 ticks

What about more than a whole note (or a dotted whole) ?


On 27 mai 08, at 19:13, Bertrand Fraysse wrote:

> What about more than a whole note (or a dotted whole) ?

You can use the ticks format to define the length of any note.

Quote: Emmanuel Jourdan wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 12:38

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> On 27 mai 08, at 19:13, Bertrand Fraysse wrote:

> > What about more than a whole note (or a dotted whole) ?

> You can use the ticks format to define the length of any note.

Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks format to define the length of any note.

Quote: Emmanuel Jourdan wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 12:38
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> On 27 mai 08, at 19:13, Bertrand Fraysse wrote:
>
> > What about more than a whole note (or a dotted whole) ?
>
> You can use the ticks format to define the length of any note.
>
> ej
>
>
>
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Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks format to define the length of any note.


On 27 mai 08, at 22:10, Bertrand Fraysse wrote:

> Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks 

> format to define the length of any note.

It's there, in the the Time Value Syntax vignette:

https://cycling74.com/docs/max5/vignettes/core/maxtime_syntax.html

> Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks  
> format to define the length of any note.

Quote: Bertrand Fraysse wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 13:10

> Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks format to define the length of any note.

ticks are tempo independent, so simple multiplication suffices.

Quote: Bertrand Fraysse wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 13:10
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> Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks format to define the length of any note.
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ticks are tempo independent, so simple multiplication suffices.
1920 = 1n
* 4
7680 = four measures

Quote: Chris Muir wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 14:45

> Quote: Bertrand Fraysse wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 13:10

> ----------------------------------------------------

> > Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks format to define the length of any note.

> ticks are tempo independent, so simple multiplication suffices.

But I want it to be tempo dependent, in sync with transport.

Quote: Chris Muir wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 14:45
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> Quote: Bertrand Fraysse wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 13:10
> ----------------------------------------------------
> > Sorry, I looked "everywhere" and I don't see how to change the ticks format to define the length of any note.
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> ticks are tempo independent, so simple multiplication suffices.
> 1920 = 1n
> * 4
> 7680 = four measures
>
> -C
>
>
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But I want it to be tempo dependent, in sync with transport.
Just like 1n or 4n but longer...


Ok so if I understand, I forget about the 4n, 1n... and I use the ticks system only.

Ok so if I understand, I forget about the 4n, 1n... and I use the ticks system only.
Good, thank you. 
Sorry for my slow understanding.


On May 27, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Bertrand Fraysse wrote:

> But I want it to be tempo dependent, in sync with transport.

ticks and note values are the same at any tempo. 4n == 480 ticks at 

any tempo. multiplying ticks values for larger (> 1n, 1nt, 1nd) values 

> But I want it to be tempo dependent, in sync with transport.
> Just like 1n or 4n but longer...

ticks and note values are the same at any tempo. 4n == 480 ticks at  
any tempo. multiplying ticks values for larger (> 1n, 1nt, 1nd) values  
works fine.

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

Ok ok, it's just that I tried [metro 480 ticks] and in fact it understand [metro 480].

I have to send [480 ticks] to [metro] and it understand it.

Ok ok, it's just that I tried [metro 480 ticks] and in fact it understand [metro 480].
I have to send [480 ticks] to [metro] and it understand it.
Fine, thank you.


On 27 May 2008, at 21:45, Chris Muir wrote:

If I recall correctly, "4.0.0" should mean the same thing.

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   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
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Quote: nick rothwell / cassiel wrote on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:35

> On 27 May 2008, at 21:45, Chris Muir wrote:

> If I recall correctly, "4.0.0" should mean the same thing.

> nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- 

Quote: nick rothwell / cassiel wrote on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:35
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> On 27 May 2008, at 21:45, Chris Muir wrote:
>
> > 1920 = 1n
> > * 4
> > 7680 = four measures
>
> If I recall correctly, "4.0.0" should mean the same thing.
>
> 	-- N.
>
>
>    nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
> www.cassiel.com
>
>
>
>
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Yes, I think I'll opt for this one.
Thanks.


[Problem] Time Value Syntax