tristan

Just wondering if anyone has encountered a problem with the incdec object. In the help documentation it states that by holding the mouse button down, the output continues to increment, gradually increasing the rate of output the longer you hold it down. This is exactly the behaviour I am after. I'm wanting to fade out a gainslider in a live situation without running into the problem of a large shift in its output that always seems to happen when using the mouse.

Unfortunately, when I use incdec, it seems I have to keep clicking the mouse to get it to continue to decrement and fade out. This is likely to be distracting in a live situation, for both me and the audience. Am I missing something here?

problem-with-incdec

you post a topic, and then you go into gainslider preferences and discover relative mousing mode and solve your problem without the need for an incdec object at all!

it seems that the problem with incdec still stands, though...

Yeah, doesn't seem to work right in Max 5. I tried it out in version 4.5.5, and it worked fine there.

doesn't work for me in either 4.6.3 or 5.0.4

Doesn't work for me in either max 4.6.3 or 5.0.4

The behaviour is listed in both the 4.6 reference manual and the max 5 reference.

there's always the brute-force way. But the missing feature of incdec would be nice, complete with rate and accel/decel control maybe (though this could be done with scale instead).

> Unfortunately, when I use incdec, it seems I have to keep clicking

> the mouse to get it to continue to decrement and fade out. This is

> likely to be distracting in a live situation, for both me and the

My first advice, if you are serious about live performance, get a 

faderbox and in general avoid mousing for your control. (with rare 

Korg will soon be releasing their nano control series, which are must 

I made a DecInc object for this sort of control, to use two keys to up 

and down values instead of a mouse click. My abhaXion does automatically 

advance if you hold the keys (defaults to up/down keys). You'll find it 

in my St.ools collection (cycling74/share pages)...

Tristan Coleman schrieb:
> Unfortunately, when I use incdec, it seems I have to keep clicking
> the mouse to get it to continue to decrement and fade out. This is
> likely to be distracting in a live situation, for both me and the
> audience. Am I missing something here?

My first advice, if you are serious about live performance, get a 
faderbox and in general avoid mousing for your control. (with rare 
exceptions...;-)
Korg will soon be releasing their nano control series, which are must 
have toys, they seem to be cheap also...

I made a DecInc object for this sort of control, to use two keys to up 
and down values instead of a mouse click. My abhaXion does automatically 
advance if you hold the keys (defaults to up/down keys). You'll find it 
in my St.ools collection (cycling74/share pages)...

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On 10 sept. 08, at 11:58, Bas van der Graaff wrote:

> Doesn't work for me in either max 4.6.3 or 5.0.4

> The behaviour is listed in both the 4.6 reference manual and the max 

> Doesn't work for me in either max 4.6.3 or 5.0.4
>
> The behaviour is listed in both the 4.6 reference manual and the max  
> 5 reference.

Here's another way to do the incdec, without needing a mouse. The select message to number boxes is sometimes overlooked. I don't use it that often but it makes sense with a row of numbers that are similar... most of us are pretty used to "tabbing through" values in other applications or in forms on the web.

Another great place for it is with presets, so you can easily change them without needing to see the interface. Would of course work with pattr too. This gives a lot of control even when things are hidden.