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title says it all, it would give my patch a lot more clarity if I could replace all my send~ and receive~ objects with s~ and r~.

Makes sense right? s and r do exist for send and receive..but not on the signal level.

title says it all, it would give my patch a lot more clarity if I could replace all my send~ and receive~ objects with s~ and r~.
Makes sense right? s and r do exist for send and receive..but not on the signal level.


s-and-r-so-why-no-s-and-r

Don't know why there is no s~ and r~ but you can also just use s and r and it should work anyway. (More about that here... 

https://cycling74.com/forums/sendrecieve-audio-signals/)

 The other common workaround is to create abstractions i.e. ( [inlet]--->[send~ #1]) saved as 's~' and( [receive~ #1] ---> [outlet]) saved as 'r~' placed in one of Max's search paths..

Don't know why there is no s~ and r~ but you can also just use s and r and it should work anyway. (More about that here... https://cycling74.com/forums/sendrecieve-audio-signals/) The other common workaround is to create abstractions i.e. ( [inlet]--->[send~ #1]) saved as  's~' and( [receive~ #1] ---> [outlet]) saved as 'r~' placed in one of Max's search paths..


Thanks for the link, I seem to have missed this topic somehow.

There should be a thesaurus of sorts in the cycling folder. That's how t is short for trigger and r is short for receive. I'm on a phone so I can't find it for you but it wouldn't be hard to edit it to do r~ and s~

There should be a thesaurus of sorts in the cycling folder.  That's how t is short for trigger and r is short for receive.  I'm on a phone so I can't find it for you but it wouldn't be hard to edit it to do r~ and s~


^ya, good idea, it's different in max7, you'll have to open the package if you're on macosx, but for all the previous versions of max, it was found in the Cycling'74/init folder as the file: "audio-objectmappings.txt"

simply open that .txt file in a text editor and add lines like this to the end of that:

restart max and they'll work as equivalents just like you want :)

^ya, good idea, it's different in max7, you'll have to open the package if you're on macosx, but for all the previous versions of max, it was found in the Cycling'74/init folder as the file: "audio-objectmappings.txt"
simply open that .txt file in a text editor and add lines like this to the end of that:
"max objectfile s~ send~;
max objectfile r~ receive;"
restart max and they'll work as equivalents just like you want :)


raja, I'm afraid this will work only until Max' next update…

Wait why? Does this have to do with this weird no update installation policy? I've had to migrate my entire cycling folder manually four times already in v7. Is there a way to avoid this?

Wait why?  Does this have to do with this weird no update installation policy? I've had to migrate my entire cycling folder manually four times already in v7.  Is there a way to avoid this?


For what it's worth, much as the abbreviated names might be convenient, it will be a PITA if you ever want/have to share your patchers with others.

I suppose those mapping files are replaced each time an update is performed. 3rd party externals and packages can be located outside Max' package, but I don't know if it is also possible with the init files.

you could also just rename the externals files. but then this max runtime will only run your patches.

@ raja and Patrick: Make your own object mappings text file (mymappings-objectmappings.txt) and put it in your own package "init" folder. It will survive updates unscathed.

@ raja and Patrick: Make your own object mappings text file (mymappings-objectmappings.txt)  and put it in your own package "init" folder. It will survive updates unscathed.


(^ha, i just keep a copy of things attached to emails placed under labelled email folders related to Max, and whenever things change i download/paste-replace, but that's sooo old-school(plus, it's just laziness that keeps me from starting a special private github for certain text-file thingies :p). But Holland's idea is much better :)

(^ha, i just keep a copy of things attached to emails placed under labelled email folders related to Max, and whenever things change i download/paste-replace, but that's sooo old-school(plus, it's just laziness that keeps me from starting a special private github for certain text-file thingies :p).  But Holland's idea is much better :)


s and r, so why no s~ and r~ ?