petterdass

How do i save my subpatches so i can use them in other projects?

(I know how to download externals and save them in a folder thats included im max search path, but i cant figure out how to save my own little creations)

save-subpatches-as-externals

The same way you, just need to put it on the max search path. Save 

your subpatches as new self contained patches and then put them 

somewhere on the search path. As long as they don't have the same 

name as another object it should work. This would make an abstract 

On 1 Nov 2007, at 13:22, petterdass wrote:

> How do i save my subpatches so i can use them in other projects?

> (I know how to download externals and save them in a folder thats 

> included im max search path, but i cant figure out how to save my 

The same way you, just need to put it on the max search path. Save  
your subpatches as new self contained patches and then put them  
somewhere on the search path. As long as they don't have the same  
name as another object it should work. This would make an abstract  
(as opposed to an external).

>
> Helu
>
> Sorry to bother with noob questions...
>
> How do i save my subpatches so i can use them in other projects?
>
> Thank you!
>
> (I know how to download externals and save them in a folder thats  
> included im max search path, but i cant figure out how to save my  
> own little creations)


Thanks alot, but i dont get my head around this...

Im trying to save my patches as mxt. or pat. and i put them in a folder that is recognized in max searchpath (file preferences)

I then restart max, open a new patch, choose an object box and write the name on the patch i saved.

This is obviously not the way to do it :)

No, that is how you do it ;) And you shouldn't have to restart Max either. Save as .pat, I don't know about .mxt.

Take another look at the "Your Object" in the tutorials.

Don't forget the patcher-in-box option in the palette menu, if you want the patch to appear in the main patch (as opposed to a popup window with the patch inside). Plus you can have arguments (#1 #2 etc.) to the patch in either case.

No, that is how you do it  ;)  And you shouldn't have to restart Max either. Save as .pat, I don't know about .mxt.

ok , i make a new patch containing 10 cycles~

I save this patch in a folder that i have saved in max search path

I then open a new patch, drag in an object box, write maxcombo~

I save this patch in a folder that i have saved in max search path
( its calles max external folder)

I then open a new patch, drag in an object box, write maxcombo~
on it , and nothing happens.

When it's in the search path (and not in the same folder you're working in), it is not found until relaunch I believe. Anyhow best would be not to keep it in the externals folder. Suppose you update max and a new externals folder is installed, everything you put in there yourself would be gone. (I don't know as a fact that the max installer does it this way but I don't want to find out the hard way.) Moreover, if two items with the same name exist in folders included in the search path (eg you forgot about the existence of the first one), who knows which one is actually loaded. My approach is to keep abstractions in the same folder as the main patch that loads them, and outside the search path, or, when abstraction have proven to be reusable more then average, I keep them in one folder with my own items, inside the search path but not in the max application folder.

Ok, i made a new folder on my desktop, called it my max abstractions, and searched it up in max file preferences.

I made a patch called 9cycles1onepole~.pat and saved it in my max abstractions folder.

I then restarted max, made a new patch, dragged in an objectbox,

wrote 9cycles1onepole~ on it and nothing happend.

I then restarted max, made a new patch, dragged in an objectbox,
wrote 9cycles1onepole~ on it and nothing happend.

Just an idea. Try saving it with a simple name (without the ~ and

spaces). So call it something like myabstact. I don't know what the

> Ok, i made a new folder on my desktop, called it my max abstractions, and searched it up in max file preferences.

> I made a patch called 9cycles1onepole~.pat and saved it in my max abstractions folder.

> I then restarted max, made a new patch, dragged in an objectbox,

> wrote 9cycles1onepole~ on it and nothing happend.

Just an idea. Try saving it with a simple name (without the ~ and
spaces). So call it something like myabstact. I don't know what the
problem is but this might help :-)

On 05/11/2007, petterdass  wrote:
>
> Ok, i made a new folder on my desktop, called it my max abstractions, and searched it up in max file preferences.
>
> I made a patch called 9cycles1onepole~.pat and saved it in my max abstractions folder.
>
> I then restarted max, made a new patch, dragged in an objectbox,
> wrote 9cycles1onepole~ on it and nothing happend.
>
> This give me headaches :)
>
> Thanks
>


Sounds like you are doing everything right.

What exactly does 'noting happend' mean? Didn't you get any messages in

Also you could try to post your 9cycles1onepole~.pat.

And you will have to make sure there is no other file with the same name

>Ok, i made a new folder on my desktop, called it my max abstractions,

>and searched it up in max file preferences.

>I made a patch called 9cycles1onepole~.pat and saved it in my max

>I then restarted max, made a new patch, dragged in an objectbox,

>wrote 9cycles1onepole~ on it and nothing happend.

Sounds like you are doing everything right.
What exactly does 'noting happend' mean? Didn't you get any messages in
the max window etc..?
Also you could try to post your 9cycles1onepole~.pat.
And you will have to make sure there is no other file with the same name
in you search path.
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Jakob Riis
New: jr.abstractions for MaxMSP
http://www.sonicescape.net/maxmsp/
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>Ok, i made a new folder on my desktop, called it my max abstractions,
>and searched it up in max file preferences.
>
>I made a patch called 9cycles1onepole~.pat and saved it in my max
>abstractions folder.
>
>I then restarted max, made a new patch, dragged in an objectbox,
>wrote 9cycles1onepole~ on it and nothing happend.
>
>This give me headaches :)
>
>Thanks

in my externals folder i have a sub-patch (called 3rdExternals) in 

when i make an abstraction i want to re-use as an external (with 

names such an delmono, delmono~, mvol~ stvol~ etc etc) i save it 

there, and when re-starting max it is always seen/found , no problem

>Ok, i made a new folder on my desktop, called it my max 

>abstractions, and searched it up in max file preferences.

>I made a patch called 9cycles1onepole~.pat and saved it in my max 

in my externals folder i have a sub-patch (called 3rdExternals) in 
which i have a sub folder "myexterns"

when i make an abstraction i want to re-use as an external (with 
names such an delmono, delmono~, mvol~ stvol~ etc etc) i save it 
there, and when re-starting max it is always seen/found , no problem

>Ok, i made a new folder on my desktop, called it my max 
>abstractions, and searched it up in max file preferences.
>
>I made a patch called 9cycles1onepole~.pat and saved it in my max 
>abstractions folder.
>
>I then restarted max, made a new patch, dragged in an objectbox,
>wrote 9cycles1onepole~ on it and nothing happend.
>


sorry for bothering, but thanks for useful tips anyway

I bet you forgot to give it ins and outs... ;-)

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> When it's in the search path (and not in the same folder you're

> working in), it is not found until relaunch I believe.

This is not true, only if you create a new subfolder within the search 

path, it will be included on next start, Max just can't know that you 

Normal files will be found, if they are within the search path which 

jvkr schrieb:
> When it's in the search path (and not in the same folder you're
> working in), it is not found until relaunch I believe.

This is not true, only if you create a new subfolder within the search 
path, it will be included on next start, Max just can't know that you 
did that.
Normal files will be found, if they are within the search path which 
existed on start up...

thats right, and i felt a bit stupid when i found out!

In fact, you can simply work with a subpatch until you're ready (the subpatch is finalized), say Save As... give it the same name, then go back to main level, click in the p object (which is still a subpatch at this point), erase the "p" --- voila, your object / abstraction appears. All your connections stay put. This way you can have the convenience of working within the main patch while developing, then use the power of a separate object once it's done.

Don't forget pcontrol to pop that baby open and closed... lots easier and prettier to click "open" or use a keystroke than to double-click an object box.

In fact, you can simply work with a subpatch until you're ready (the subpatch is finalized), say Save As... give it the same name, then go back to main level, click in the p object (which is still a subpatch at this point), erase the "p" --- voila, your object / abstraction appears. All your connections stay put.  This way you can have the convenience of working within the main patch while developing, then use the power of a separate object once it's done.

> thats right, and i felt a bit stupid when i found out!

We all had our feelings, I still have after almost 20 years of patching. 

But none of the other supporters got the catch... ;-)

That's why no matter how stupid you think it is, it might point someone 

else into the right direction, if the solution is coming up on the list 

as well. Not only for those who struggle on their first steps (remember, 

you can't learn walking without falling...), also for those who want to 

We're all with you on your path to Max mastery...

petterdass schrieb:
> thats right, and i felt a bit stupid when i found out!

We all had our feelings, I still have after almost 20 years of patching. 
But none of the other supporters got the catch... ;-)
That's why no matter how stupid you think it is, it might point someone 
else into the right direction, if the solution is coming up on the list 
as well. Not only for those who struggle on their first steps (remember, 
you can't learn walking without falling...), also for those who want to 
help...

after double clicking an abstraction i struggle to get it in edit mode, whats the quickest way to edit abstractions?

I would like my abstractions to show up in a dropdownmenu, (i forget what i call them)

can i do this with including a bpatcher in the abstraction?

If this is already answered in the thread : I apologize :)

1)
after double clicking an abstraction i struggle to get it in edit mode, whats the quickest way to edit abstractions?

2)
I would like my abstractions to show up in a dropdownmenu, (i forget what i call them)
can i do this with including a bpatcher in the abstraction?

On 8 nov. 07, at 11:24, petterdass wrote:

> after double clicking an abstraction i struggle to get it in edit 

> mode, whats the quickest way to edit abstractions?

Contextual menu on the abstraction's instance-> Open Original (at the 

double click on the instance, and in its window's title bar, 

option-command click on the name and choose the name again.

(don't know if it's possible that way on windows)

Centre de Recherches et de Formation Musicales de Wallonie asbl

> after double clicking an abstraction i struggle to get it in edit 
> mode, whats the quickest way to edit abstractions?

Contextual menu on the abstraction's instance-> Open Original (at the 
bottom of the menu)

double click on the instance, and in its window's title bar, 
option-command click on the name and choose the name again.
(don't know if it's possible that way on windows)

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Save subpatches as externals