Not very interesting, indeed, but i report that typing 'Hypersonic.dll' 

in a vst~ object makes max crash, while loading it through a plug 

I guess there's a few more like this one and it's not handy at all... 

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music

> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

Not very interesting, indeed, but i report that typing 'Hypersonic.dll' 
in a vst~ object makes max crash, while loading it through a plug 
message is ok.

- vst folder is in the path
- Win Max 4.5.7

I guess there's a few more like this one and it's not handy at all... 
Does it comes from Steinberg or C74 ?

-- 
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> >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|


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>Not very interesting, indeed, but i report that typing 

>'Hypersonic.dll' in a vst~ object makes max crash, while loading it 

>I guess there's a few more like this one and it's not handy at 

>all... Does it comes from Steinberg or C74 ?

don't know but on mac as well there are a few plugs which do it 

(guitar rig 2 from NI, but not Grig 1...)

the only solution (I found) is to load an empty vst~ and loadbang the 

>Not very interesting, indeed, but i report that typing 
>'Hypersonic.dll' in a vst~ object makes max crash, while loading it 
>through a plug message is ok.
>
>- vst folder is in the path
>- Win Max 4.5.7
>
>I guess there's a few more like this one and it's not handy at 
>all... Does it comes from Steinberg or C74 ?

don't know but on mac as well there are a few plugs which do it 
(guitar rig 2 from NI, but not Grig 1...)

the only solution (I found) is to load an empty vst~ and loadbang the 
plug-in itself....

best
kasper
-- 
  Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer
http://www.sleazeArt.com

F.E - thank you very much for this. I had been struggling with several of my VST effects (e.g., Bad Ass Edge, arcDev, etc) crashing MAX/MSP using the manual typing approach after vst~. But the plug message fixed everything. Wonderful. :)

As an intro MAX/MSP user, I am now struggling with loosing all my VST presets when I close down MAX/MSP and start up later. For instance, I use the read message to load my favorite preset for a VST, but it doesn't stick, but goes back to the default reset after re-starting MAX/MSP. I'm assuming there is a relatively simple procedure for circumventing this, though I have not discovered it yet. Any tips would be much appreciated.

Quote: f.e wrote on Fri, 15 September 2006 03:27

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> Not very interesting, indeed, but i report that typing 'Hypersonic.dll' 

> in a vst~ object makes max crash, while loading it through a plug message is ok.

> I guess there's a few more like this one and it's not handy at all... 

> f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music

> > >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|

Quote: f.e wrote on Fri, 15 September 2006 03:27
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> Not very interesting, indeed, but i report that typing 'Hypersonic.dll' 
> in a vst~ object makes max crash, while loading it through a plug message is ok.
>
> - vst folder is in the path
> - Win Max 4.5.7
>
> I guess there's a few more like this one and it's not handy at all... 
> Does it comes from Steinberg or C74 ?
>
> f.e
>
> -- 
> f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
> > >>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
> > >>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|
>
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>F.E - thank you very much for this. I had been struggling with 

>several of my VST effects (e.g., Bad Ass Edge, arcDev, etc) crashing 

>MAX/MSP using the manual typing approach after vst~. But the plug 

>As an intro MAX/MSP user, I am now struggling with loosing all my 

>VST presets when I close down MAX/MSP and start up later. For 

>instance, I use the read message to load my favorite preset for a 

>VST, but it doesn't stick, but goes back to the default reset after 

>re-starting MAX/MSP. I'm assuming there is a relatively simple 

>procedure for circumventing this, though I have not discovered it 

>yet. Any tips would be much appreciated.

the message "write" is your friend - and of course "read" at startup

you can also enhance them with closebang and loadbang

but look at the vst~ helpfile ! (and the manual, of course!!)

>Kasper, disregard my email request.
>
>F.E - thank you very much for this. I had been struggling with 
>several of my VST effects (e.g., Bad Ass Edge, arcDev, etc) crashing 
>MAX/MSP using the manual typing approach after vst~. But the plug 
>message fixed everything. Wonderful. :)
>
>As an intro MAX/MSP user, I am now struggling with loosing all my 
>VST presets when I close down MAX/MSP and start up later. For 
>instance, I use the read message to load my favorite preset for a 
>VST, but it doesn't stick, but goes back to the default reset after 
>re-starting MAX/MSP. I'm assuming there is a relatively simple 
>procedure for circumventing this, though I have not discovered it 
>yet. Any tips would be much appreciated.

kasper
-- 
  Kasper T. Toeplitz
noise, composition, bass, computer
http://www.sleazeArt.com

Quote: Kasper T Toeplitz wrote on Fri, 15 September 2006 23:30

> >F.E - thank you very much for this. I had been struggling with 

> >several of my VST effects (e.g., Bad Ass Edge, arcDev, etc) crashing 

> >MAX/MSP using the manual typing approach after vst~. But the plug 

> >message fixed everything. Wonderful. :)

> >As an intro MAX/MSP user, I am now struggling with loosing all my 

> >VST presets when I close down MAX/MSP and start up later. For 

> >instance, I use the read message to load my favorite preset for a 

> >VST, but it doesn't stick, but goes back to the default reset after 

> >re-starting MAX/MSP. I'm assuming there is a relatively simple 

> >procedure for circumventing this, though I have not discovered it 

> >yet. Any tips would be much appreciated.

> the message "write" is your friend - and of course "read" at startup

> you can also enhance them with closebang and loadbang

> but look at the vst~ helpfile ! (and the manual, of course!!)

Yes, I am useing "write" and "read, to load and save my VST presets, but apparently not in a way to preserve the last preset I load when I run MAX/MSP again. It keeps going back to the default VST preset rather than the one I read (load up) before closing. I'll keep digging and figure it out. The manual isn't exactly the most intuitive of instructional documents in the industry.

Quote: Kasper T Toeplitz wrote on Fri, 15 September 2006 23:30
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> >Kasper, disregard my email request.
> >
> >F.E - thank you very much for this. I had been struggling with 
> >several of my VST effects (e.g., Bad Ass Edge, arcDev, etc) crashing 
> >MAX/MSP using the manual typing approach after vst~. But the plug 
> >message fixed everything. Wonderful. :)
> >
> >As an intro MAX/MSP user, I am now struggling with loosing all my 
> >VST presets when I close down MAX/MSP and start up later. For 
> >instance, I use the read message to load my favorite preset for a 
> >VST, but it doesn't stick, but goes back to the default reset after 
> >re-starting MAX/MSP. I'm assuming there is a relatively simple 
> >procedure for circumventing this, though I have not discovered it 
> >yet. Any tips would be much appreciated.
>
> the message "write" is your friend - and of course "read" at startup
>
> you can also enhance them with closebang and loadbang
>
> but look at the vst~ helpfile ! (and the manual, of course!!)
>
>
> best
>
> kasper
> -- 
>   Kasper T. Toeplitz
> noise, composition, bass, computer
> http://www.sleazeArt.com

>Yes, I am useing "write" and "read, to load and save my VST presets, 

>but apparently not in a way to preserve the last preset I load when 

>I run MAX/MSP again. It keeps going back to the default VST preset 

>rather than the one I read (load up) before closing.

it always worked here - make sure you are reading the latest you 

wrote - change the name of your preset maybe........

but i use this since years, always worked -

of course to load a preset you must load the plug-in first (!!!) - 

since you seem to use the "plug" message just make sure you are

1_opening the patch (and creating the vst object)

2_calling the plug you need (message plug)

(a few delays are enough, it's a question of miliseconds at startup)

>The manual isn't exactly the most intuitive of instructional 

don't know which other instructional documents you are talking about, 

but from my experience it IS the best - try to find some info about 

some reaktor module (or core!!!) in a ni manual, check out the super 

collider manual, or dig into csound!! - you'll soon regreat the nice 

>
>
>Yes, I am useing "write" and "read, to load and save my VST presets, 
>but apparently not in a way to preserve the last preset I load when 
>I run MAX/MSP again. It keeps going back to the default VST preset 
>rather than the one I read (load up) before closing.

it always worked here - make sure you are reading the latest you 
wrote - change the name of your preset maybe........

of course to load a preset you must load the plug-in first (!!!) - 
since you seem to use the "plug" message just make sure you are
1_opening the patch (and creating the vst object)
2_calling the plug you need (message plug)
3_calling the preset (message read)
(a few delays are enough, it's a question of miliseconds at startup)

>The manual isn't exactly the most intuitive of instructional 
>documents in the industry.
>
>

don't know which other instructional documents you are talking about, 
but from my experience it IS the best - try to find some info about 
some reaktor module (or core!!!) in a ni manual, check out the super 
collider manual, or dig into csound!! - you'll soon regreat the nice 
help files and the complete manual!!

Steinberg Hypersonic plugin crash