Chris

There still are search path problems in 4.6.1 on Mac (not tested on Win).

All applications with MaxMsp are searching outside the application bundle for different files.

1)create a patch with [mxj help] and [standalone] inside.

4)copy mxj.jar in the sasme folder (not inside the application bundle)

5)launch the app, you see that the application has taken the max.jar from outside the application :

Stalwook:/tmp kristof$ ls -d /tmp/bug-path-mxj.app /tmp/max.jar 

(mxj classloader) dynamic classpath entry /private/classes/ does not exist.

This is a very annoying problem, because when you put your application in /Applications folder, then it may take 5 minutes to start (it will scan everything looking for its files).

1)create a patch with [mxj help] and [standalone] inside.
2)create an application from it.
3)copy the app in a folder
4)copy mxj.jar in the sasme folder (not inside the application bundle)
5)launch the app, you see that the application has taken the max.jar from outside the application :

Stalwook:/tmp kristof$ ls -d /tmp/bug-path-mxj.app /tmp/max.jar 
/tmp/bug-path-mxj.app   /tmp/max.jar

MXJ System CLASSPATH:
   /private/tmp/max.jar
MXJClassloader CLASSPATH:
   /private/classes/
(mxj classloader) dynamic classpath entry /private/classes/ does not exist.
• error: Could not load class 'help'

still-problems-with-search-path-in-4-6-1-mac-for-application-created-with-maxmsp

> All applications with MaxMsp are searching outside the application

Max.jar does not contain the classes. you should copy the whole Java 

folder into the application bundle/contents/ folder

> This is a very annoying problem, because when you put your

> application in /Applications folder, then it may take 5 minutes to

> start (it will scan everything looking for its files).

This is only the case if you do not deliver the files it looks for.

Sometimes you want files outside the application to be found. Imagine 

someone creates a sampler. Then you would just put the appliction into a 

folder and ask the user to place the samples and the preset files there....

Max stops searching if it found what its looking for, so its your 

responsability to deliver it early enough...

Chris wrote:
> All applications with MaxMsp are searching outside the application
> bundle for different files.

> Very easy test :
>
> Could not load class 'help'

Max.jar does not contain the classes. you should copy the whole Java 
folder into the application bundle/contents/ folder

> This is a very annoying problem, because when you put your
> application in /Applications folder, then it may take 5 minutes to
> start (it will scan everything looking for its files).

Sometimes you want files outside the application to be found. Imagine 
someone creates a sampler. Then you would just put the appliction into a 
folder and ask the user to place the samples and the preset files there....

Max stops searching if it found what its looking for, so its your 
responsability to deliver it early enough...

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> Max.jar does not contain the classes. you should copy the whole Java

> folder into the application bundle/contents/ folder

>> This is a very annoying problem, because when you put your

>> application in /Applications folder, then it may take 5 minutes to

>> start (it will scan everything looking for its files).

> This is only the case if you do not deliver the files it looks for.

In my apps, I 'm putting all Jar, ... in Content/MacOS

so maybe this is the reason why it is looking outside?

should I put all my stuff in the same folder than the mxf ?

> Sometimes you want files outside the application to be found. Imagine

> someone creates a sampler. Then you would just put the appliction into a

> folder and ask the user to place the samples and the preset files there....

> Max stops searching if it found what its looking for, so its your

> responsability to deliver it early enough...

>> Could not load class 'help'
>
> Max.jar does not contain the classes. you should copy the whole Java
> folder into the application bundle/contents/ folder
>
>> This is a very annoying problem, because when you put your
>> application in /Applications folder, then it may take 5 minutes to
>> start (it will scan everything looking for its files).
>
> This is only the case if you do not deliver the files it looks for.

so maybe this is the reason why it is looking outside?
should I put all my stuff in the same folder than the mxf ?

>
> Sometimes you want files outside the application to be found. Imagine
> someone creates a sampler. Then you would just put the appliction into a
> folder and ask the user to place the samples and the preset files there....

> Max stops searching if it found what its looking for, so its your
> responsability to deliver it early enough...
>
> Stefan
>

> so maybe this is the reason why it is looking outside?

> should I put all my stuff in the same folder than the mxf ?

I leave the test up to you, this is typically something to find out by 

trial and error... (and by searching the archives...)

Then if it works, read the docs again, and you'll understand.

I am not an expert for building applications but it took me a minute to 

get it running (thanks to your detailed steps to reproduce).

90% of answers I give I don't know in advance, I try, and find out...

Then if there remains a problem (which is possible) come back to ask...

Chris wrote:
> so maybe this is the reason why it is looking outside?
> should I put all my stuff in the same folder than the mxf ?

I leave the test up to you, this is typically something to find out by 
trial and error... (and by searching the archives...)
Then if it works, read the docs again, and you'll understand.

I am not an expert for building applications but it took me a minute to 
get it running (thanks to your detailed steps to reproduce).
90% of answers I give I don't know in advance, I try, and find out...

Still problems with search path in 4.6.1 (Mac) for Application created with MaxMsp