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can someone point me in the direction of some resources for using max with surround. I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we have 17 inputs to dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max control the whole thing in conjunction with the LAKE software, so any help would be nice. im not looking for a blow by blow, just a good place to start reading, thanks!

surround-soundpanning-in-max

Have you seen the stuff in the examples folder first of all?

> can someone point me in the direction of some resources for using max with surround. I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we have 17 inputs to dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max control the whole thing in conjunction with the LAKE software, so any help would be nice. im not looking for a blow by blow, just a good place to start reading, thanks!

On 7/2/07, Larry Ursini  wrote:
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> can someone point me in the direction of some resources for using max with surround. I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we have 17 inputs to dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max control the whole thing in conjunction with the LAKE software, so any help would be nice. im not looking for a blow by blow, just a good place to start reading, thanks!
>


i used to work with ville pulkkis vbap objects.

http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/research/cat/vbap/

i used to work with ville pulkkis vbap objects.
a real pleasure

http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/research/cat/vbap/


take a look at VBAP. maxobjects.com will point you in the right 

On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Larry Ursini wrote:

> can someone point me in the direction of some resources for using 

> max with surround. I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we 

> have 17 inputs to dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max 

> control the whole thing in conjunction with the LAKE software, so 

> any help would be nice. im not looking for a blow by blow, just a 

take a look at VBAP. maxobjects.com will point you in the right  
direction for the external, etc.

>
> can someone point me in the direction of some resources for using  
> max with surround. I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we  
> have 17 inputs to dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max  
> control the whole thing in conjunction with the LAKE software, so  
> any help would be nice. im not looking for a blow by blow, just a  
> good place to start reading, thanks!


yes i agree, if you are looking at max to generate virtual sources and for the Lake to convolve, vbap is one way to go.

I've found ambipan~ and vbapan~ interesting to work with. You can model

various speaker setups with a single object. I don't know if development

continues with this external into Universal format. Hasn't been much change

http://cicm.mshparisnord.org/dl/ambipan.htm

> can someone point me in the direction of some resources for using max with

> surround. I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we have 17 inputs to

> dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max control the whole thing in

> conjunction with the LAKE software, so any help would be nice. im not

> looking for a blow by blow, just a good place to start reading, thanks!

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I've found ambipan~ and vbapan~ interesting to work with. You can model
various speaker setups with a single object. I don't know if development
continues with this external into Universal format. Hasn't been much change
on the web pages for some time.

On 7/2/07, Larry Ursini  wrote:
>
>
> can someone point me in the direction of some resources for using max with
> surround. I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we have 17 inputs to
> dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max control the whole thing in
> conjunction with the LAKE software, so any help would be nice. im not
> looking for a blow by blow, just a good place to start reading, thanks!
>

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For Ambisonics surround I recommend our ICST Ambisonics objects.

For more information the theory of Ambisonics read this primer:

http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/ambis2.htm

The ICST Ambisonics externals are also integrated into Jamoma 

modules, a modular standard for MaxMSP Jitter.

In many situations vbap can also be an absolutely viable solution.

> I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we have 17 inputs to 

> dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max control the whole 

> thing in conjunction with the LAKE software, so any help would be 

> nice. im not looking for a blow by blow, just a good place to start 

They available here:
http://www.icst.net/downloads/

For more information the theory of Ambisonics read this primer:
http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/ambis2.htm

The ICST Ambisonics externals are also integrated into Jamoma  
modules, a modular standard for MaxMSP Jitter.
http://jamoma.org/

> I am doing some work at a planetarium, and we have 17 inputs to  
> dedicated speakers, 16.1, and want to have max control the whole  
> thing in conjunction with the LAKE software, so any help would be  
> nice. im not looking for a blow by blow, just a good place to start  
> reading, thanks!


Surround sound/Panning in Max