Chris

I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing down to a stop).

Does anyone know an external that does this, or even better a little example patch?

tape-stopping-effect

If you actually want to slow down your samples you will want to modulate 

the signal that drives the playback object with some sort of curve. If 

you are looking for an effect post-playback, check out using tapout~ for 

> I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing down to a stop).

> Does anyone know an external that does this, or even better a little example patch?

Hi Chris,
If you actually want to slow down your samples you will want to modulate 
the signal that drives the playback object with some sort of curve. If 
you are looking for an effect post-playback, check out using tapout~ for 
some weird time-bending.

Chris Hipgrave wrote:
> I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing down to a stop).
>
> Does anyone know an external that does this, or even better a little example patch?
>
> Thank you
> Chris


You'd need to use a tapin (with about 500-1000ms of buffer)/tapout pair at 

the outputs, and probably also want to control the volume there too.

During normal play, the delay is set as short as possible.

When a STOP event occurs, you want two curves to fire off:

    this requires some tweaking, you'll want this to be a curve (a 

line would just change the pitch at a constant rate rather than going 

Mmmmmeeeeooowwwmmm.), probably about 2 second long going from a 1ms delay 

to maybe around 500. Adjust the curvature value to taste/physics/what 

    again using a curve, drop the volume to 0 over the same time that 

Speaker Health Tip: Whenever you mess with time travel, include a "safety" 

hp filter... even if it's 15hz, the sub you save could be your own.

I'd include an example, but I don't have a computer I can run max4.0 

(which is what I have a license for) on around right now.

(need to get on the Universal Binary + Javascript UI good times 

andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy

"Nothing real can defeat us. Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo Banzai

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Chris Hipgrave wrote:

-&e->I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing down to a stop).

-&e->Does anyone know an external that does this, or even better a little example patch?

You'd need to use a tapin (with about 500-1000ms of buffer)/tapout pair at 
the outputs, and probably also want to control the volume there too.

1. increase the delay time
	this requires some tweaking, you'll want this to be a curve (a 
line would just change the pitch at a constant rate rather than going 
Mmmmmeeeeooowwwmmm.), probably about 2 second long going from a 1ms delay 
to maybe around 500.  Adjust the curvature value to taste/physics/what 
King Tubby would do.

2. decrease the volume
	again using a curve, drop the volume to 0 over the same time that 
the delay is modified

when a START event occurs:
1. jump the delay time to 1ms
2. bring the volume back up to * 1

Speaker Health Tip: Whenever you mess with time travel, include a "safety" 
hp filter... even if it's 15hz, the sub you save could be your own.

I'd include an example, but I don't have a computer I can run max4.0 
(which is what I have a license for) on around right now.

(need to get on the Universal Binary + Javascript UI good times 
bandwagon eventually)
andyw

andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
/////////////////////////////////////
"Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo Banzai

-&e->
-&e->I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing down to a stop).
-&e->
-&e->Does anyone know an external that does this, or even better a little example patch?
-&e->
-&e->Thank you
-&e->Chris
-&e->


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On Aug 21, 2006, at 10:41 PM, AndyW wrote:

> You'd need to use a tapin (with about 500-1000ms of buffer)/tapout 

> the outputs, and probably also want to control the volume there too.

> During normal play, the delay is set as short as possible.

> When a STOP event occurs, you want two curves to fire off:

>     this requires some tweaking, you'll want this to be a curve (a

> line would just change the pitch at a constant rate rather than going

> Mmmmmeeeeooowwwmmm.), probably about 2 second long going from a 1ms 

> to maybe around 500. Adjust the curvature value to taste/physics/what

>     again using a curve, drop the volume to 0 over the same time that

> Speaker Health Tip: Whenever you mess with time travel, include a 

> hp filter... even if it's 15hz, the sub you save could be your own.

> I'd include an example, but I don't have a computer I can run max4.0

> (which is what I have a license for) on around right now.

> (need to get on the Universal Binary + Javascript UI good times

> andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy

> "Nothing real can defeat us. Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo 

> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Chris Hipgrave wrote:

> -&e->I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it 

> that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing down 

"Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo Banzai

Well said. the Hong Kong Cavaliers have been done proud. Favorite  
movie ever.

I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I  
LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE!

You will not be saved by the Holy Ghost. You will not be saved by the  
God Plutonium.

>
> You'd need to use a tapin (with about 500-1000ms of buffer)/tapout  
> pair at
> the outputs, and probably also want to control the volume there too.
>
> During normal play, the delay is set as short as possible.
>
> When a STOP event occurs, you want two curves to fire off:
>
> 1. increase the delay time
> 	this requires some tweaking, you'll want this to be a curve (a
> line would just change the pitch at a constant rate rather than going
> Mmmmmeeeeooowwwmmm.), probably about 2 second long going from a 1ms  
> delay
> to maybe around 500.  Adjust the curvature value to taste/physics/what
> King Tubby would do.
>
> 2. decrease the volume
> 	again using a curve, drop the volume to 0 over the same time that
> the delay is modified
>
> when a START event occurs:
> 1. jump the delay time to 1ms
> 2. bring the volume back up to * 1
>
> Speaker Health Tip: Whenever you mess with time travel, include a  
> "safety"
> hp filter... even if it's 15hz, the sub you save could be your own.
>
> I'd include an example, but I don't have a computer I can run max4.0
> (which is what I have a license for) on around right now.
>
> :(
>
> (need to get on the Universal Binary + Javascript UI good times
> bandwagon eventually)
> andyw
>
> andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
> ////////////////////////////////// 
> ///
> "Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo  
> Banzai
>
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Chris Hipgrave wrote:
>
> -&e->
> -&e->I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it  
> that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing down  
> to a stop).
> -&e->
> -&e->Does anyone know an external that does this, or even better a  
> little example patch?
> -&e->
> -&e->Thank you
> -&e->Chris
> -&e->

If you have Jitter, check out jit.catch~ and jit.release~. And just 

> Well said. the Hong Kong Cavaliers have been done proud. Favorite 

> I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I 

> You will not be saved by the Holy Ghost. You will not be saved by 

> On Aug 21, 2006, at 10:41 PM, AndyW wrote:

>> You'd need to use a tapin (with about 500-1000ms of buffer)/tapout 

>> the outputs, and probably also want to control the volume there too.

>> During normal play, the delay is set as short as possible.

>> When a STOP event occurs, you want two curves to fire off:

>>     this requires some tweaking, you'll want this to be a curve (a

>> line would just change the pitch at a constant rate rather than going

>> Mmmmmeeeeooowwwmmm.), probably about 2 second long going from a 

>> to maybe around 500. Adjust the curvature value to taste/physics/ 

>>     again using a curve, drop the volume to 0 over the same time that

If you have Jitter, check out jit.catch~ and jit.release~.  And just  
hold on.  It flies like a truck.

> andy@saturn5.com
>
> "Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo  
> Banzai
>
> Well said. the Hong Kong Cavaliers have been done proud. Favorite  
> movie ever.
>
> ;)
>
>
> v a d e //
>
> www.vade.info
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>
>
> I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I  
> LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE!
>
> You will not be saved by the Holy Ghost. You will not be saved by  
> the God Plutonium.
>
> In fact, YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED!
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2006, at 10:41 PM, AndyW wrote:
>
>>
>> You'd need to use a tapin (with about 500-1000ms of buffer)/tapout  
>> pair at
>> the outputs, and probably also want to control the volume there too.
>>
>> During normal play, the delay is set as short as possible.
>>
>> When a STOP event occurs, you want two curves to fire off:
>>
>> 1. increase the delay time
>> 	this requires some tweaking, you'll want this to be a curve (a
>> line would just change the pitch at a constant rate rather than going
>> Mmmmmeeeeooowwwmmm.), probably about 2 second long going from a  
>> 1ms delay
>> to maybe around 500.  Adjust the curvature value to taste/physics/ 
>> what
>> King Tubby would do.
>>
>> 2. decrease the volume
>> 	again using a curve, drop the volume to 0 over the same time that
>> the delay is modified
>>
>> when a START event occurs:
>> 1. jump the delay time to 1ms
>> 2. bring the volume back up to * 1
>>
>> Speaker Health Tip: Whenever you mess with time travel, include a  
>> "safety"
>> hp filter... even if it's 15hz, the sub you save could be your own.
>>
>> I'd include an example, but I don't have a computer I can run max4.0
>> (which is what I have a license for) on around right now.
>>
>> :(
>>
>> (need to get on the Universal Binary + Javascript UI good times
>> bandwagon eventually)
>> andyw
>>
>> andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
>> ///////////////////////////////// 
>> ////
>> "Nothing real can defeat us.  Nothing unreal exists." - Buckaroo  
>> Banzai
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Chris Hipgrave wrote:
>>
>> -&e->
>> -&e->I have made a drum machine and i want to put an effect in it  
>> that would sound like me stopping it on a tape player (slowing  
>> down to a stop).
>> -&e->
>> -&e->Does anyone know an external that does this, or even better a  
>> little example patch?
>> -&e->
>> -&e->Thank you
>> -&e->Chris
>> -&e->
>

thank you for the help. i will try out the ideas.

Tape stopping effect